If dlh got the nod in

[Dynamite Kid]

the tito fight and shane2 fight would he be an atg?

Id say he already is.

[dans]

Thank you. I thought I was the only one that thought Ike beat him.

I thought Ike beat him too.

Thanks for the backup.

S.G. and others, I can't say you are wrong, scoring is opinion and what you like. But if you can, go back and watch the fight. IMO Quartey clearly won despite the fact that the ref easily could've stopped the fight in the final round. Give him credit, it was one of the great stands I've ever seen. To take the type of punishment that DLH dished out in the 12th and to be able to finish the round punching back is incredible. He won the fight on the scorecards and proved to be able to take DLH at his absolute best.

[Dynamite Kid]

Thanks for the backup.

S.G. and others, I can't say you are wrong, scoring is opinion and what you like. But if you can, go back and watch the fight. IMO Quartey clearly won despite the fact that the ref easily could've stopped the fight in the final round. Give him credit, it was one of the great stands I've ever seen. To take the type of punishment that DLH dished out in the 12th and to be able to finish the round punching back is incredible. He won the fight on the scorecards and proved to be able to take DLH at his absolute best.

Ive always maintained that Quartey won clearly to.

There were times in late in the fight where DLH looked dejected but credit where its due he did finish like a Champ, i still dont think he won the fight though.

[savorduhflavor]

I like Oscar, but he lost to Quartey. It was as clear as day. Calling it close is even being generous to Oscar. He won 1 of the first 3 rounds, than didn't win another one until like the 10th. He just did nothing in the fight.

[dans]

One judge had Quartey/DLH - 116-112 and another had DLH 116-113. Those are garbage scores. I can see maybe having DLH up a point as some have said, but these scores are robbery scores for a fight where DLH was beaten to the punch, outboxed, and hurt. Remember the announcers saying DLH NEEDED a KO to win, that's the extent of it.

I agree that Oscar should've gotten the decision over Trinidad, for the same reasons I believe he should've lost to Quartey. You can't win a fight by losing 3/4 of the rounds.

[dans]

Ive always maintained that Quartey won clearly to.

There were times in late in the fight where DLH looked dejected but credit where its due he did finish like a Champ, i still dont think he won the fight though.

I like Oscar, but he lost to Quartey. It was as clear as day. Calling it close is even being generous to Oscar. He won 1 of the first 3 rounds, than didn't win another one until like the 10th. He just did nothing in the fight.

That's what I'm talking about. Agree 100% with both of these. Credit is due to Oscar, I think he has a case to say the fight should've been stopped and he should've been declared the winner, but that wasn't the case. He needed the KO and he didn't get it. Amazing effort though.

[GoDsRiGhThAnD]

hes already an all time greatest he beat pernell whitaker ,JCC,eJeff mayweather,vargas,gatti, ike quartey,hector camacho.

[IMDAZED]

the tito fight and shane2 fight would he be an atg?

That's a good question. But I'm not sure the result is what changes anything. Do you think the consensus opinion of his performance would've changed if he got the win against Tito? People might've got on him even more for winning a decision where spent several rounds running. Even worse if he avoided the rematch after. I don't think it was Tito winning that hurt Oscar's legacy.

As for the Shane bout, that performance looks better now than it did then. De La Hoya was a strong favorite going in, coming off back to back stoppages of Vargas and Campas, I believe. Mosley was thought to be done at that time - fighting out of his division at 154 and he hadn't won a fight in a couple years. How he even got the Oscar fight was just downright baffling. It was his performance that surprised, not Oscar's. That said, I do believe Oscar won a close decision. He had so many fights like this where the scoring was controversial. What would his legacy look like if he lost a unanimous decision to Felix Strum?

[IMDAZED]

Ive always maintained that Quartey won clearly to.

There were times in late in the fight where DLH looked dejected but credit where its due he did finish like a Champ, i still dont think he won the fight though.

That was Oscar's best performance. He played the bull that night and outmanned Ike. I had him losing but I'm not mad at that result at all. He closed like a champ. After the first Mosley fight I don't think I saw that Oscar again.

[dans]

That was Oscar's best performance. He played the bull that night and outmanned Ike. I had him losing but I'm not mad at that result at all. He closed like a champ. After the first Mosley fight I don't think I saw that Oscar again.

Would you say it was Quartey's best performance as well? I think Quartey fought the perfect fight for 10 of the 12.