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  • #21
    Originally posted by Sin City View Post
    a chicano is a mexican born in the united states.
    But Vargas was born in the US too. In Oxnard,CA.

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    • #22
      Mexicans/Chinacos are usually small people. Hence why you don’t get many Mexicans heavyweight. But on occasionally you do get some big Mexicans. But the problems is they are lethargic due to their size

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      • #23
        Originally posted by Benncollinsaad View Post
        But Vargas was born in the US too. In Oxnard,CA.
        only two of those guys are chicanos. And only one of them would actually identify himself as one.

        quoted for truth.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by Manny Duckman View Post
          Mexicans/Chinacos are usually small people. Hence why you don’t get many Mexicans heavyweight. But on occasionally you do get some big Mexicans. But the problems is they are lethargic due to their size
          There was one way back, in the 60's/70's. Don't remember his name. He was pretty highly rated too. Some good Latino heavyweights: Oscar Bonavena, Bernardo Mercado, Alfredo Evangelista, Luis Angel Firpo.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by Benncollinsaad View Post
            It seems like the Chicano greatness era is passing, with many of their legends either retired (DeLaHoya,Chavez) or seriously past their prime (Barrera,Vargas,Morales). Not to mention the disgraced one. We all know his name.
            Barrera is no chicano, I'm pretty sure he was born in mexico city.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by Manny Duckman View Post
              Chambers at HW
              Cunningham at CW
              Dawson Hopkins Cloud at LW
              Ward Dirrel at SMW
              Williams MW or WW
              Mosley Mayweather Berto at WW
              Bradley Alexander at Jr WW


              Yep Black Americans are not dong well at all
              That isn't much.. when you consider how many divisions there is and how many fighters.
              Europeans dominate the heavier divisions, Mexicans the lower and here are maybe one or two division where a African American fighter is at the top.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by MrUnKnockoutabl View Post
                Barrera is no chicano, I'm pretty sure he was born in mexico city.
                Nobody said he was. Margarito isn't either. Actually, he was born in California, but he lives in Tijuana. I guess he grew up there too.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by Sin City View Post
                  That isn't much.. when you consider how many divisions there is and how many fighters.
                  Europeans dominate the heavier divisions, Mexicans the lower and here are maybe one or two division where a African American fighter is at the top.


                  Europeans dominate the higher weight classes??? They dominate heavyweight without question.

                  What other divisions do they dominate???
                  Cunningham arguably beat Adamesk at CW
                  LW- Dawson and Hopkins are the best
                  SMW - Tournament started
                  MW - Williams v Pavlik going to happen

                  Black American are currently dominated the WW division.
                  Berto,Mayweather,Williams and Mosley

                  Yea, Mexicans are doing awesome in divisions where only starving Africans can make :lol1;

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by Manny Duckman View Post
                    Europeans dominate the higher weight classes??? They dominate heavyweight without question.

                    What other divisions do they dominate???
                    Cunningham arguably beat Adamesk at CW
                    LW- Dawson and Hopkins are the best
                    SMW - Tournament started
                    MW - Williams v Pavlik going to happen

                    Black American are currently dominated the WW division.
                    Berto,Mayweather,Williams and Mosley

                    Yea, Mexicans are doing awesome in divisions where only starving Africans can make :lol1;
                    You don't happen to be black by any chance? Just wondering. Hopkins is no longer a contender, he's a basket case. Don't count that Pavlik fight I advise you, and it's been 9 months since that anyway. At SMW the main favorites are Kessler,Froch and Abraham. At WW only Berto and Mosley are champions as far as I know. Mosley still hasn't defended his title. IBF title is held by an African. Cunningham lost to Adamek-clearly.

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                    • #30
                      All the big Mexicans I know look like Erik Morales or got that penitentiary build, which looks impressive but isnt good for boxing.

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