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  • #91
    Originally posted by QUELOQUE View Post
    "Ricky Hatton was suspect before the fight". What a way to show your loyalty to your future clientele .
    He's telling the truth about that though. When I saw the 24/7 on Hatton-Pacquiao, and the cameras did not show any of Hatton's sparring sessions, that nailed it right there for me. And that just gave me more reason not to give the Hatton-Pacquiao fight the time of day because I knew it was a farce. I don't give any credit to Manny for that win, because Hatton was done on top of not being that good to begin with. But I still don't use Manny's easy victories over Diaz, De La Hoya, and Hatton as a measuring stick for Cotto defeating him in this fight, because Cotto is 0-3 in my opinion against Margarito, Clottey, and Mosley.

    I question whether Manny could handle Margarito and Mosley. But I think he could beat Clottey because on top of Clottey's work rate, he is not a big puncher. He wasn't able to KO a faded Diego Corrales and Cotto was shaken by him at times in that fight. I think Cotto's chin has softened since that beating from Margarito.

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    • #92
      Originally posted by boxingfan76 View Post
      roachs prediction of a ko is way off in my opinion, not even margarito was able to ko cotto
      Marg doesn't have a huge punch, he gets his KOs by volume of punches, he's never been a one-punch knock-out artist. Pac does have a big punch when he sets himself (as against JMM and Hatton).

      Originally posted by boxingfan76 View Post
      and hes 5-11 with the reach of a heavyweight
      You must be mixing Cotto up with someone else! He's 5′ 7″ with a 67″ reach. Pac is 5′ 6½″ with a 67″ reach. They are almost identical in that respect!

      Originally posted by boxingfan76 View Post
      i dont see how a midget with a giant head
      If Pac's a midget then Cotto's a midget. Cotto may be naturally heavier but they are virtually the same height and have identical reach. And Pac weighs 147 on fight night, the same as Floyd does - do you think Floyd is a midget as well?

      Originally posted by boxingfan76 View Post
      that is naturally a 135lber will do it.
      He is a natural 140 pounder now. The fact that he weighed less in the past is irrelevant.

      Originally posted by boxingfan76 View Post
      i just dont see pac being able to hurt a true welter hes just too small
      No smaller in size than Cotto, no smaller in fight night weight than Floyd.

      Originally posted by boxingfan76 View Post
      judging from the delahoya beating pac landed like 5 million punches and i never once did i see him wobble.
      He didn't set himself for those punches, he was on the move the whole time. When he sets himself he does have one-punch power.

      Originally posted by boxingfan76 View Post
      hatton was a 140 lber witha glass chin, remember collazo ,lazcano, and mayweather hattons glass chin was on display in all those fights.
      In the Mayweather fight he didn't show a glass chin at all, he took a lot of punches right on the button before he went down, and even then he got up despite hitting a corner post very hard with the back of his head on the way down.

      Against Collazo and Lazcano he left his chin hanging out and anyone can get starched when they do that (see Nate Campbell vs. Robbie Peden). Despite that he managed to win both fights.

      Against Tszyu, the biggest punching Jnr Welterweight of his generation, he took many of Tszyu's best punches and still won.

      He was lineal Jnr Welterweight champion for nearly four years. Although most people expected Pac to beat him, there was not one respected boxing analyst who expected it to be as one-sided as it was. Almost all of them predicted a very competitive war, and a late round KO.


      You're just blinded by your hate.
      Last edited by Dave Rado; 08-04-2009, 05:50 PM.

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      • #93
        Be honest...

        Why is it so hard to admit that Pacquiao is just that good? JM Marquez is my absolute favorite fighter out now but you got to give credit where credit is due. It's funny how people keep throwing around stats like weight and punching power and body shots. Does anyone know how Tiger Wood's drive distance compares to the other pros? Or the club head speed of his swing? No, because it doesn't matter. He's a phenom. He kicks ass based on sheer talent and intangibles. Honestly, Pac doesn't move like a man but like a cat or some other wild animal.
        But, boxing is so much a part of minority culture, and I say that as a South American (Ecuador) that no Mexican, Black and especially British fan wants to admit that the best is a non-American, a Filipino. Sure the Filipinos think he's God, but instead of praying for someone to beat him so they'll take him off the pedestal, why not just enjoy the amazing run of victory and boxing prowess put on by a true champ. If he beats a smaller guy it's because that guy was smaller so it doesn't count. If he beats a bigger guy it was because that guy was weight-drained and dehydrated, so it doesn't count. Does that sound logical to you?
        Don't buy in to the 'hater' mentality. Because, the truth is if he had a dad that was half white and half Mexican, and a mom that was half black and half Asian and he smiled like De la Hoya and talked trash like Ali it wouldn't matter what his record was--you'd be all over his sack. And, please, if you're going to make predictions base it on something other than 'uh, Cotto's bigger,' or 'duh, Cotto hits hard'. Well, Shaq is like 8 feet tall and Allen Iverson is super quick but Jordan would twist their asses up wouldn't he?

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        • #94
          Originally posted by vanciliro View Post
          Why is it so hard to admit that Pacquiao is just that good? JM Marquez is my absolute favorite fighter out now but you got to give credit where credit is due. It's funny how people keep throwing around stats like weight and punching power and body shots. Does anyone know how Tiger Wood's drive distance compares to the other pros? Or the club head speed of his swing? No, because it doesn't matter. He's a phenom. He kicks ass based on sheer talent and intangibles. Honestly, Pac doesn't move like a man but like a cat or some other wild animal.
          But, boxing is so much a part of minority culture, and I say that as a South American (Ecuador) that no Mexican, Black and especially British fan wants to admit that the best is a non-American, a Filipino. Sure the Filipinos think he's God, but instead of praying for someone to beat him so they'll take him off the pedestal, why not just enjoy the amazing run of victory and boxing prowess put on by a true champ. If he beats a smaller guy it's because that guy was smaller so it doesn't count. If he beats a bigger guy it was because that guy was weight-drained and dehydrated, so it doesn't count. Does that sound logical to you?
          Don't buy in to the 'hater' mentality. Because, the truth is if he had a dad that was half white and half Mexican, and a mom that was half black and half Asian and he smiled like De la Hoya and talked trash like Ali it wouldn't matter what his record was--you'd be all over his sack. And, please, if you're going to make predictions base it on something other than 'uh, Cotto's bigger,' or 'duh, Cotto hits hard'. Well, Shaq is like 8 feet tall and Allen Iverson is super quick but Jordan would twist their asses up wouldn't he?
          this aint basketball jack size does matter. mayweather is 10 times better then klit but if you put them in the ring he would get kod. that is why there are weight divisions.

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          • #95
            Originally posted by ny123 View Post
            this aint basketball jack size does matter. mayweather is 10 times better then klit but if you put them in the ring he would get kod. that is why there are weight divisions.
            Size matters but it's over-rated by many posters on these forums.

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            • #96
              lol, he also said the same thing about Hatton and look what happened.


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              • #97
                Originally posted by F l i c k e r View Post
                lol, he also said the same thing about Hatton and look what happened.


                you guys write dowqn your opinion and he gave his i dont see anything wrong with that

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by HattonFaithful View Post
                  i think styles have at least a little to do with it man but i DO agree that the better man always wins...and i also agree with you that Sr. should recieve little respect for how he acted after the hatton loss...by the way you wanna have a bet with me on the pac cotto fight?
                  I dont have that much money but I will bet with you, I will go 2k on Cotto. send a message if you interested.

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by vanciliro View Post
                    Why is it so hard to admit that Pacquiao is just that good? JM Marquez is my absolute favorite fighter out now but you got to give credit where credit is due. It's funny how people keep throwing around stats like weight and punching power and body shots. Does anyone know how Tiger Wood's drive distance compares to the other pros? Or the club head speed of his swing? No, because it doesn't matter. He's a phenom. He kicks ass based on sheer talent and intangibles. Honestly, Pac doesn't move like a man but like a cat or some other wild animal.
                    But, boxing is so much a part of minority culture, and I say that as a South American (Ecuador) that no Mexican, Black and especially British fan wants to admit that the best is a non-American, a Filipino. Sure the Filipinos think he's God, but instead of praying for someone to beat him so they'll take him off the pedestal, why not just enjoy the amazing run of victory and boxing prowess put on by a true champ. If he beats a smaller guy it's because that guy was smaller so it doesn't count. If he beats a bigger guy it was because that guy was weight-drained and dehydrated, so it doesn't count. Does that sound logical to you?
                    Don't buy in to the 'hater' mentality. Because, the truth is if he had a dad that was half white and half Mexican, and a mom that was half black and half Asian and he smiled like De la Hoya and talked trash like Ali it wouldn't matter what his record was--you'd be all over his sack. And, please, if you're going to make predictions base it on something other than 'uh, Cotto's bigger,' or 'duh, Cotto hits hard'. Well, Shaq is like 8 feet tall and Allen Iverson is super quick but Jordan would twist their asses up wouldn't he?

                    good argument, noobie.

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                    • Roach needs to have Manny practice the uppercut in training. That's the punch that Cotto is a sucker for. If this fight goes into the deep rounds, I see no way that Cotto pulls it out. He's got to get to Pacquiao early and hurt him and keep the hurt on like there's no tommorrow.

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