Cotto: "Hey Freddie, I am Not De La Hoya or Hatton"

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  • Iceta
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    #341
    Originally posted by Beater_of_ass
    Wow... so it doesn't matter how a guy wins it matter how well he looks doing it? The guys you just mentioned, ESPECIALLY Mosley are elite fighters and Cotto won a fought against an elite fighter, if Cotto is a so called B fighter WTF does it make these other guys? This is almost the dumbest comment I've seen on here, followed only by "Cotto struggles against guys at or above his level." Well no ****, if he destroyed them he'd be ABOVE their level, and against the opposition he's fought, whom are all the best in the division he comes out on top. I guess that's the sad way of the world however, Manny wasn't GREAT until he beat DLH and demolished Hatton. When he was facing Marquez or Morales in the first fight he wasn't nearly as heralded. Then we have Mayweather who has only fought the number 8 ranked WW according to Ring Magazine and thats supposedly "HIS" division and he's the #1 or #2 P4P by most accounts.
    Why are you taking **** so personal? The lowest I went on Cotto was maybe B+. I'm just saying he needs a dominant victory over an elite fighter. It's real talk. I'm a big JMM fan and I admit that his fights with Barrera and Pacquiao are kind of too close for his comfort when it comes to questions answered of whether or not he is really superior to those guys. I wonder if JMM would have beaten a prime Barrera. And you should absolutely know that Cotto couldn't have fucked with a prime Mosley. I don't know what your position is though?

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    • DAN916
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      #342
      Originally posted by Iceta
      If Cotto beats Pacquiao I will finally be at least somewhat sold on him being an A level or at least a B+ to an A- fighter. I respect Cotto for getting in the ring with Clottey, Margarito, and Mosley. But he got beaten badly in the fight with Margarito and won razor thin decisions over Clottey and Mosley. I want to see Cotto finally put a stamp on a victory against an elite opponent if I'm going to hear of how his most hardcore fans continue to talk about how great he is. I expect him to rise to the occasion with or without the catch weight even though I think that what Pacquiao is doing is bull****.
      Personally Cotto's wins over Mosley and Clottey are more meaningful than when he knocks out Pac.

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        #343
        Originally posted by Silkstone
        ALright mate, I'll give you that. I assumed he meant prime 4 prime before re-reading. As far as Hatton is concerned. I don't think he's better than the Hitman who beat Kostya.... but those days are [I]long[I] gone. Better than the Hatton who fought Floyd, Pac & Collazo? I'd have to say so.

        Do u smoke pcp do you really think hatton a one dimensional brawler is better than cotto whooo beat ssm joshua clottey zab super judah and one of the most feared welterweights carlos quintana u must be some type of junkieee ricky hattan can only beattt other british pub brawlers

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        • My Name Is...
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          #344
          Originally posted by dondi330
          WTF?!!!
          Too bad were not debating WW1, WW2, Vietnam, Iraq, Or Holocaust...????????? Those are facts.
          But you backing Chicana who is backing Margacheato...is Comical and very dumb. Opinions are debatable, especially dumb ones.
          So the PRs didnt start **** when Salvador won... FACT!!!

          When Bernard won, PR's talked ****.. FACT!!

          They DAY AFTER Margs won, PR reported he was on Roids.... Then they said he was too big for WW... FACT!!!

          These are NOT OPINIONS, the are well known FACTS....

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          • goblin
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            #345
            C'mon Cotto knock that prick out of his ****en misery...
            send him back to 130 where he can blow up to fight smaller
            PAST PRIME/WEIGHT DRAINED fighters..

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            • Alem721
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              #346
              PAC will respond by saying ok at 147. MP has not meet anyone like Cotto with ring generalship and power. MP will fold under the pressure by facing a LEGIT ww instead of comparing his win against DLH. TEAM MP is oblivious what COTTO brings. COTTO will destroy JMM at 147,145 and look what JMM did against PAC. A treat for COTTO!

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              • oc9979
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                #347
                Originally posted by HTownTexan
                So the PRs didnt start **** when Salvador won... FACT!!!

                When Bernard won, PR's talked ****.. FACT!!

                They DAY AFTER Margs won, PR reported he was on Roids.... Then they said he was too big for WW... FACT!!!

                These are NOT OPINIONS, the are well known FACTS....


                not roids but
                'Plaster-like substance' found on wraps
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                LOS ANGELES -- Welterweight titleholder Antonio Margarito was forced to re-wrap his hands before Saturday night's defense against Shane Mosley at Staples Center after Mosley trainer ****m Richardson discovered an abnormality during the pre-fight inspection.

                "It was a plaster-like substance," Golden Boy Promotions attorney Stephen Espinoza told ESPN.com. "It was bagged up by the commission and taken as evidence."

                Espinoza said that Dean Lohuis, co-executive director of the California State Athletic Commission, said it was discovered under both of Margarito's wraps.

                Margarito's camp could not be reached for comment.

                Richardson originally had objected to the amount of tape on Margarito's hands and when it was removed, the foreign substance was discovered, Espinoza said.

                Richardson, who trains Bernard Hopkins, had also objected to Felix Trinidad's hand wraps before their historic 2001 undisputed middleweight championship fight. Trinidad was forced to have his hands re-wrapped and Hopkins went on to knock him out in the 12th round to unify titles.
                Margarito gets 1-year suspension for illegal wraps
                Margarito gets 1-year suspension for illegal wraps
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                Tuesday, Feb. 10, 2009 - 8:55 p.m. ET
                Antonio Margarito's boxing license was revoked for at least one year Tuesday by the California State Athletic Commission for the illegal wraps discovered on the former welterweight champion's hands before his loss last month to Sugar Shane Mosley.

                The commission's decision effectively bans Margarito, a California-born fighter who lives in Mexico, from boxing in the U.S., since other states generally uphold such suspensions under federal law. Margarito's trainer, Javier Capetillo, also lost his license for at least one year despite claiming he made an innocent mistake while wrapping Margarito's hands.

                The decision stunned and infuriated Top Rank promoter Bob Arum, who attended the hearing in Van Nuys. Arum, Capetillo and Margarito all insisted the boxer had no knowledge of the illegal nature of the wraps, which contained a plaster-like substance nestled tightly inside the usual tape on a fighter's fists.

                "It's an absolute outrage," Arum told The Associated Press. "It's something that I never thought would happen in the United States, where somebody who is totally and completely innocent, has no knowledge what happened, and didn't do anything wrong, gets his license taken away because his trainer allegedly did something wrong. Everybody is blown away. It's absolutely crazy."

                A few minutes before Margarito (37-6, 27 KOs) entered the ring in Los Angeles on Jan. 24, officials discovered the plaster-like substance when Mosley's trainer, Naazim Richardson, ordered Margarito's hands to be unwrapped. A hardened substance like plaster can give a fighter heavier hands, putting extra power on his punches.

                "The conduct of both Mr. Margarito and Mr. Capetillo was unacceptable and threatened the health and safety of another licensee," said Carrie Lopez, the director of the state's Department of Consumer Affairs, which licenses fighters. "Today's action shows that both the Department of Consumer Affairs and the California State Athletic Commission take the issue of boxer safety very seriously, and will move quickly when a licensee's actions threaten the safety of others."

                Mosley stopped Margarito in the ninth round of their bout at Staples Center to claim Margarito's WBA welterweight title. The largely pro-Margarito crowd was the biggest in the arena's history.

                Arum said Capetillo "deserved what he got," but strenuously objected to Margarito's punishment. Margarito and Capetillo must apply with the California commission for reinstatement before their licenses can be reinstated.

                Margarito could challenge the ruling in the California courts, or he could apply to the Association of Boxing Commissions to get permission to fight in states other than California.

                Keith Kizer, the executive director of the Nevada Athletic Commission, told the AP it's too early to say whether such a strategy would allow Margarito to fight in Las Vegas in the next year. Kizer previously has said Nevada is likely to honor any ban from California.

                Arum said it's more likely Margarito's next fight will be in Mexico, where several cities already had contacted him about hosting one of the nation's most popular fighters despite his recent loss.

                "There are legal remedies, but there are practical remedies that would keep him fighting," Arum said.

                Arum doesn't expect Margarito to be back in the ring until June at the earliest after absorbing ample punishment from Mosley, who won every round on many observers' scorecards in an upset victory. The result was shocking to fans who watched Margarito's punishment of previously undefeated Miguel Cotto last summer to win the WBA belt.

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                • Nuurzhaelan
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                  #348
                  Originally posted by Iceta
                  Why are you taking **** so personal? The lowest I went on Cotto was maybe B+. I'm just saying he needs a dominant victory over an elite fighter. It's real talk. I'm a big JMM fan and I admit that his fights with Barrera and Pacquiao are kind of too close for his comfort when it comes to questions answered of whether or not he is really superior to those guys. I wonder if JMM would have beaten a prime Barrera. And you should absolutely know that Cotto couldn't have fucked with a prime Mosley. I don't know what your position is though?
                  Cotto has demonstrably proved that he will fight whomever the promoters put before him. I have never seen nor heard of him evading a fight. He is ELITE, creme de la creme. Pacquiao is a great fighter, but he was not so celebrated until his conquest of odlh. This fight will give Cotto the marketability he so richly deserves. It's very unfortunate that the more man you are, the less crap you talk, the more you let your fists do the talking the less exposure you get. This is a large part of why I respect him so much. Cotto walks the walk for himself and for boxing.

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                  • GottSein
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                    #349
                    Its great that Cotto is telling back to quit the catch weight bullsht. If he wants to create history winning a world title in seven weight divisions then he needs to fight at the weight the belt is for 147.

                    Here hoping if cotto loses pac tries to take on mosley or mayweather for some more welterweight fights.

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                    • onedream722
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                      #350
                      Originally posted by Nuurzhaelan
                      Cotto has demonstrably proved that he will fight whomever the promoters put before him. I have never seen nor heard of him evading a fight. He is ELITE, creme de la creme. Pacquiao is a great fighter, but he was not so celebrated until his conquest of odlh. This fight will give Cotto the marketability he so richly deserves. It's very unfortunate that the more man you are, the less crap you talk, the more you let your fists do the talking the less exposure you get. This is a large part of why I respect him so much. Cotto walks the walk for himself and for boxing.
                      i agree completely..pacquiao in the same sense is like cotto...both are humble and do not get in the trash talking game..I dont even think pacquiao responded badly when JMM interrupted his press conference..both of these two are silent destroyers...I'm glad they both have improved their english...!!!!!!!!! Manny doesn't need to talk anyway roach does enough of it

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