Cotto is to mentally unstable in the ring.

Collapse
Collapse
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • The Gully Gad
    Jeffery Hype
    Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
    • Jul 2008
    • 42711
    • 2,053
    • 2,263
    • 54,550

    #11
    I think Cotto has proved himself nuff times under pressure...
    Margs pressure was the cheating kind of pressure...

    But will he deal with Mannys which is like an updated tweeked new version of pressure

    Comment

    • MANGLER
      Sex Tape Flop Artist
      Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
      • Feb 2008
      • 30142
      • 1,705
      • 2,355
      • 46,598

      #12
      Cotto ain't mentally weak imo, he just ain't got the best chin or stamina. Some of this can be negated against Pac cuz he ain't a WW. Cotto is stronger and got more power, so he won't be bullied, even tho he will be pressured.

      Comment

      • ..WaRSpencE..
        .::Orgullo Mexicano::.
        Super Champion - 5,000-10,000 posts
        • Feb 2009
        • 6316
        • 310
        • 132
        • 13,727

        #13
        I still can't make a decision..

        All we've seen him in was with Michael Jennings..and he straight DEMOLISHED the kid..and all the Cotto haters claimed he was alright..because even tho it was only Jennings..We all saw that KILLER INSTINCT in Cotto when he went for his victim..and picked him apart in 5!..

        and We saw him in there with Clottey..which he looked great!..had good movement a solid jab..one that put the ironed chin Clottey on his ASS!..then came a headbutt..which opened up a 4+ inch cut on Cotto's eyebrow..when given the option to call the fight and take the easy W..he fights on for the fans!..and of course he struggled..he had a GASH leaking blood in his eye for 9 rds!!..

        The cut had a lot to do with how Cotto performed against Clottey..and I still believe that with out that Cut..Cotto might've been able to stop Clottey..but he had to be more cautious..

        I gotta see how he does against Pacquiao before I can make a judgement claiming he's less then what he was..because we saw the old him..against a C-class fighter..and the what we assume is the new him..but he also had a cut 4 inches long across his eyebrow..

        Comment

        • rob6465
          Undisputed Champion
          Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
          • Nov 2007
          • 1850
          • 36
          • 1
          • 8,362

          #14
          Originally posted by TredKiller
          cotto peaked during the mosley fight imo,

          and as of late, well since the margo fight he has had problems.

          im a huge cotto fan, and cotto fans dont hate on this becaz you know its true.

          he's to mentally unstable, we all saw (plaster or not) cotto fold under the pressure of margo, and i dont blame him for it TBH, but it was the start.

          then he fought clottey, clottey is a solid fighter, very underrated, but you could see in some of the rounds things that wernt "cotto-like"

          cotto got hurt a ton at 140, but when he did he would always come back strong, and beat the guy.

          but in some of the roundds in the clottey you can see when things arnt going cotto's way, or clottey is pressuring and cotto cant back him up, cotto tries to get out of they way, but his face you can see, its like he's worried, and he doesnt do alott of the same fighting he used to do.

          i jus get a sense in that fight that cotto is damaged, not physically, i think he still hits hard, still pretty fast. but mentally.

          anyway, what do you guys think.
          Of course he was worried, he could not see and was fighting with 1 eye....lol

          Comment

          • letsgobrady
            Undisputed Champion
            Super Champion - 5,000-10,000 posts
            • Jan 2008
            • 6274
            • 126
            • 11
            • 12,670

            #15
            i don't think cotto has a problem with pressure but more of a stamina problem and in both the margarito fight and the clottey fight miguel lost alot of blood which only makes you even more tired

            Comment

            • MR ITALIAN
              Banned
              Gold Champion - 500-1,000 posts
              • Mar 2009
              • 670
              • 284
              • 477
              • 832

              #16
              Originally posted by .::WaRCoTTo::.
              I still can't make a decision..

              All we've seen him in was with Michael Jennings..and he straight DEMOLISHED the kid..and all the Cotto haters claimed he was alright..because even tho it was only Jennings..We all saw that KILLER INSTINCT in Cotto when he went for his victim..and picked him apart in 5!..

              and We saw him in there with Clottey..which he looked great!..had good movement a solid jab..one that put the ironed chin Clottey on his ASS!..then came a headbutt..which opened up a 4+ inch cut on Cotto's eyebrow..when given the option to call the fight and take the easy W..he fights on for the fans!..and of course he struggled..he had a GASH leaking blood in his eye for 9 rds!!..

              The cut had a lot to do with how Cotto performed against Clottey..and I still believe that with out that Cut..Cotto might've been able to stop Clottey..but he had to be more cautious..

              I gotta see how he does against Pacquiao before I can make a judgement claiming he's less then what he was..because we saw the old him..against a C-class fighter..and the what we assume is the new him..but he also had a cut 4 inches long across his eyebrow..
              So as long as Cotto dont get cut hurt or in anyway bruised or swollen he will be fine? LOL this is Boxing man...Gatti never complained.

              Comment

              • Kris Silver
                Kneel 4 Silver,good boy!
                Super Champion - 5,000-10,000 posts
                • Feb 2008
                • 7798
                • 1,073
                • 3,581
                • 27,245

                #17
                I agree, I think it's always been there but as each flush upper cut landed on him from Tony, I reckon he's looked worse and worse. Both during that fight and since.

                He simply doesn't quite have the same swagger about him in the ring anymore.

                It might seem silly to point out, but against Gomez I was still surprised by the sheer calmness of him in the ring, it was like he was so comfortable in the ring, and in his skills that he was just gona do his thing regardless.

                Now I know Gomez is a much lesser opponent, but stil the point goes. Plus, against Jennings another much lesser opponent, he didn't even look half as relaxed, or move/look in the same confident relaxed way he has at varying times in his past.

                Comment

                • ..WaRSpencE..
                  .::Orgullo Mexicano::.
                  Super Champion - 5,000-10,000 posts
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 6316
                  • 310
                  • 132
                  • 13,727

                  #18
                  Originally posted by MR ITALIAN
                  So as long as Cotto dont get cut hurt or in anyway bruised or swollen he will be fine? LOL this is Boxing man...Gatti never complained.
                  Nah..he's been cut and hurt and did just fine..

                  what I'm saying is..people are coming to a conclusion too soon I believe..Cotto struggled against a top 5 WW..big deal!..

                  If the cut was that extreme against Mosley..Cotto would've have easily lost the Mosley fight..but that wasn't the case..

                  Bottomline is..injuries that happen during the fight can change the outcome..especially if its an injury from an illegal blow (i.e. Headbutt)..just so happen to have given Cotto a huge gash..and while he could've took the easy way out and said he's done after the 4th (he had rounds 1,3,4 plus an extra point for the KD) he continued to fight..and it was more then obvious how that cut was a BIG factor..

                  Comment

                  • ELPacman
                    LEGENDARY
                    Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
                    • Apr 2004
                    • 10713
                    • 1,937
                    • 148
                    • 34,372

                    #19
                    TBH I was thinking it the other way around. I think he's mentally OK but not physically. He seemed perfect against Jennings for a comeback fight. As if the Marg fight never happened which says a lot considering he just got back into it again. Then he fights Clottey who he himself is mentally strong and Cotto went through adversity w/headbutt since what? The end of the 2nd for 12 rds? Clottey isn't an easy fighter by no means. He gave Marg a hell of a fight until he hurt his hand. So I see Cotto still mentally his usual self which doesn't mean he still doesn't go alil crazy when things aren't going his way, but by no means is he trigger scared or similar post fight return. I think physically the Marg fight took a lot out of him such as his ability to take shots. Clottey put some good punches on him and they bothered him. I don't really know what will happen vs Pacquiao, but if things aren't going his way, Pacquiao only gets better as fight progresses...

                    Comment

                    • Beater_of_ass
                      male ass that is
                      Super Champion - 5,000-10,000 posts
                      • Jun 2009
                      • 7172
                      • 281
                      • 144
                      • 13,666

                      #20
                      Originally posted by MR ITALIAN
                      So as long as Cotto dont get cut hurt or in anyway bruised or swollen he will be fine? LOL this is Boxing man...Gatti never complained.
                      When has Cotto ever complained? He's never even said anything bad about Margarito, all he's ever said is that he thought he used them, but never used that as an excuse to his loss.

                      As for how he is mentally I can't say much as I'm not him, however, I'm sure there was a lot of Marg running through his mind during the Clottey fight, however, I don't think it was ever overwhelming him. Cotto was doing just fine in the fight up until the cut, each round was close but he was never in any danger. After the cut you saw Cotto push the action in the 4th and 6th round and looked just like the old Cotto, but if you were too blind to notice he was getting hit with massive right hands if he didn't have Clottey in the corner. Its apparent it was because of the cut and Cotto or his corner I'm sure told him that he HAD to stop taking those shots if he wanted to save his eye.

                      Also, Clottey has an iron chin and rock solid defense as you could see when Cotto had him in the corner in rounds 4 and 6, AND by Emmanuel Stewards commentary that the only way to really catch Clottey was on the way in. Obviously in order to get a guy coming in you have to box and back pedal which is exactly what Cotto did and in the 10th he hit Clottey with 2 solid lefts that stopped Clottey in his tracks the rest of the fight. Cotto may have had Marg in his mind during the Clottey fight and with or without the cut he didn't exactly look at his best. But, why is he supposed to against a top 3 or 4 WW, especially with that bad of a cut? Personally, I think this fight was what the Jennings fight was supposed to be in that he had to get in there and forget about Marg. Jennings was too easy and with the Clottey fight, the cut might have been the best thing to happen as it forced Cotto to dig deep and plow through it. If he looks the same in the Paq fight, w/o a cut then we know his career is over.

                      Comment

                      Working...
                      TOP