Wow Andre Ward is only 19-0...

[catalinul]

Honestly, Bute is the only one people can have a gripe about, then again I don't know how willing Bute was to enter this tourney. Bute-Andrade II is a good fight anyway. Plus, these guys need someone to fight after the tourney is over anyway.

They all are in front of Green IMO.

Butre as not invited in the tourney as said by the Showtime guys and Don Majesky,his agent.That's prepasturous but yeah the Andrade rematch is good but after that he will have to fight weak opposition.Unless Pavlik or Green get in there with him.

[MJ406]

I still think Green should be given some consideration in regards to the upper level of the Super Middleweights

it kind of amazes me that Taylor who's coming off a knockout loss can get a freebie so to speak

yet Green is left out to dry.

[Bushidō]

I went to see him fight Miranda in Oakland and he made the whole crowd nervous. Kessler is a lot better than Miranda and I could see Kessler hurting Ward and stopping him. IMO Ward is not at the level of Kessler

[Bushidō]

They all are in front of Green IMO.

Butre as not invited in the tourney as said by the Showtime guys and Don Majesky,his agent.That's prepasturous but yeah the Andrade rematch is good but after that he will have to fight weak opposition.Unless Pavlik or Green get in there with him.

Man your Gatti quote is just sad. It was too soon for him to go.. RIP

[DrJohn6]

I am very surprised Alan Green was overlooked for Dirrell...unless it was just easier to get Dirrell...or the unbeaten record of Dirrell "looked" better, being that Miranda beat Green and Ward beat Miranda

Dirrell is a prospect and the tournament gives him an opportunity to prove himself. I agree with all six fighters in the tournament.

[dmaclv]

Dre Ward is too quick for Kessler and is gonna win 117-113 across the board.

[catalinul]

I still think Green should be given some consideration in regards to the upper level of the Super Middleweights

it kind of amazes me that Taylor who's coming off a knockout loss can get a freebie so to speak

yet Green is left out to dry.

Green has yet to beat a top 10 SMW so I don't rank him in the higher level of SMWs.

Guys like Bute,Balzsay,Inkin,Bika and Andrade should all cry more yet I don't see them ***** daily like Green does.

[MJ406]

Super Middleweight analysis

well Green does complain a lot, I'll give you that

and not beating a top 10 SMW aside, where was Taylor's top 10 win? I guess we could say Lacy was in the lower half

but outside of Kessler, Bute, Froch and Andrade .. I don't see Super Middle as a terribly deep division .. and how many of the top Super Middle's have beaten top 10 fighters?

but after this Super Six tourney, I think a lot more will be resolved.

(if you go by The Ring's top 10 at 168) right now three fighters .. Kessler, Froch and Bute have the only wins over "top 10" opposition with victories over Andrade, Taylor and Bika, respectively

I don't think Andre Ward and Andre Dirrell have fought too close to the top at
168 .. with Ward's best win coming over a Mid Level Miranda .. who himself got wiped out by Abe.

so sure Green hasn't beaten top 10 opposition at 168, but you could say the same regarding the above 2 fighters and Abraham as well.

so taking that into consideration, if you'll agree .. not many Super Middle's can say they've beaten top 10 opposition, of course that's one ranking system (the Ring's)

and it wouldn't be too terribly hard for Green to make an impression.

(**regarding other names like Dirrell, Ward and Abraham look at their resume's at 168. I have to believe Part of the reason they're rated so highly is because they have yet to lose, so more power to them. )

either way Green can't be too far behind, he doesn't have the undefeated record he just needs the fights.

fire back when ready, lol

[catalinul]

Taylor was th eMW champ so he gets a freebie in some sort of way.He did beat Lacy who was a fringe contender o sort.

I agree that Ward and Dirrell are highly unproven,Ward having a win over decentish fringe contender Miranda and Dirrell not much of unless you count Hanshaw who was a fringe contender himself(but that win is somewhat controversial).

I agree Green could make an impression but he really hasn't done anything but talk.
He backed out of fights with Pavlik,Bute and Ward apparently and hasn't really beaten no one.Not even a fringe contedner.Maybe Codrington but that's iffy.

[MJ406]

well yeah Green should do more in the ring then out, if you get what I mean.

not to **** talk, but the criticism of having not fought top 10 opposition

doesn't fall just on Green. hell outside I said it already but outside of Kessler, Froch and Bute.

no other Elite SMW have beaten top 10 fighters