why does ray robinson have so many garbage bums on his boxrec?

[BrooklynBomber]

exactly. And I agree with SRR there, staying active is the best preparation. I don't know why more guys don't do it these days, I guess because they don't have to once they start making money, but still it IS better for your career in the long run, imo.

It also has to do with cost, guys back then would alternate a big fight at MSG with a small showing at a local pub. Kids today, as well as TV stations would not never agree to that, unless the fighter is coming back from a loss and even then. So it is just too damn expensive for a guy to fight every month, unless he is ready to fight for little money, and these kids are not.

[KILLA RIGHT]

Billionaire just asking why he had so many bums i don't think he's saying sugar was a bum or overated

[MARKBNLV]

The fighters of that era were just deeper boxing was a top 3 sport for a long time in this era boxing is probably 7-8 were hangingout with skateboarding as it comes to popularity in the us.

[STILL_DETOX]

cuz he was an over rated bum

[Izrock]

Here is the Sports-Century piece on him. I'll put it up on the Classic Forum as well.

Thx for posting this Benny, Good stuff.

[crold1]

it seems like a lot of old school fighters have a lot of bums in their records
(im not saying that in a bad way)

The game was about gate then so you would make what in essence were appearances for locals in lieu of sparring for weeks. It kept decent cash coming until the massive payday. They have lots of bums sure; they also have lots more fights against top guys by and large. Harry Greb, Sam Langford...they had almost as many fights just against world champs and HOFers as a guy like Floyd has total fights. Not a knock; just fact. Then factor in the top ten guys they fought who never got to that level. The old-timers were ILL like that.

[crold1]

In his autobiography Sugar Ray it says he would fight a few smaller low key fights before a big fight. Robinson said it was the best preparation as he would have to try and really beat the guy rather than going easy in a few sparring sessions. And your right , fighters back then wouldnt get hung up about a loss like some of todays fighters. They were tough and came to win.

Chavez and Duran were some of the last great ones to do this. Paid off.

[-EX-]

If you have over 100 fights chances are your not gonna fight great fighters every single fight...

[street bully]

well he did have 200 fights. He fought practically every month. You expect him to fight a guy who is 50-0 every month?

Besides, records can be pretty deceiving. Back then losses weren't the end of the world like they are today. Plenty of tough son of a bitches who had 10, 20 or more losses on their records.

Exactly. If fighters today were fighting every month once or twice to pay for food a lot of these undefeated guys would have at least 10 losses

[boxasmash]

look how many bums james toney fought, and floyd mayweather too.