hagler vs jones

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hagler will get to jones...

[Dude]

A prime Marvelous Marvin Hagler KOs Roy Jones Jr. in the final rounds. Though Jones was a little bit faster he never came close to the accuracy Hagler had in his punches. Marvin's jab is superior to the strange thing with which Roy set up his hooks. Jones had some serious power at middleweight but he never KOed a fighter who had a granite chin like Hagler. Jones chin, the other way round, in his prime is a little bit questionable as it was never really tested but I think everyone agrees that it is no way near Marvins. So Hagler should be be able to KO Jones if he's given the opportunity.

Jones fought the best of his era so did Marvin. The problem is that Jones fought in a pretty weak era. His best wins came against Toney and Hopkins. Toney not well conditioned and Hopkins not yet in his prime. Marvin fought the likes of Hearns, Mugabi, Antuofermo, Briscoe, Monroe, Hamsho, Duran and so on. While Jones had to spend years fighting anyone with boxing gloves Marvin consistently fought A-class fighters.

Jones was everyones darling, everybody aknowlegded his skills and his talent, his greatness was never questioned. Marvin instead never really got the respect he deserved. He'd have a totally different motivation coming into that fight then Jones. Jones was regarded one of the best p4p fighters of all time in his prime, Hagler got overlooked most of the time. A prime Hagler would've fought for his life and his career, for the big paydays and a place in history that he (rightly so) felt belongs to him. While it would be just another big fight for Roy it'd be the fight of a lifetime for Hagler.

Marvin certainly is the better technician hands down. But he proved that he could handle akward or unusual fighters. In fact it wouldn't be so much upon to Marvin to adapt but to Roy since he'd never be allowed to keep his right down or rush in in spectacular fashion. Marvin was a very clever fight who would have no problem in takeing advantage of all the little faults in Roys boxing interpretation. Roy would have to change his style a little bit, he'd have to box more conservative.

Hagler was alway top conditioned and if the fight went 12 rounds Ray would be able to go full pace all the way as well. Rays problem here might be his concentration. While Hagler was in a different zone once the bell rang Roy had these little moments where he didn't seem to pay enough attention. That doesn't hurt if you fight Vinny Pazienza or Danny Garcia but it could end the fight if you're in the ring with Marvin. The question would be if the middleweight Jones could maintain his concentration for the whole fight.

In his middleweight days Roy like to come forward against Hagler he would've to change his normal gameplane. And the biggest weakness in Roys repertoire was his defense that relied on speed and reflexes. Once he meets a fighter as fast and as accurate as Hagler he will not be able to make him miss without getting hurt. As I've stated before a prime Hagler could've KOed a prime Jones if he hits him clean. Now if Roy counterpunches and tries to punish the pressuring Hagler he faces the problem that Hagler had power in every shot he threw and that Marvin could threw any shot ever seen in a boxing ring in balance and beauty. Roy would not be able to read Marvin as he had tons of variations could box north- and soutpole nearly equally efficent and had a great jab to make things happen.

If Roy tries to go to war the fight ends quick as he'd not be able to hurt Marvin (not even a Hearns right could) and Marvin would KO him. Roy doesn't want to fight inside against Hagler. But if he stays outside Hagler still has the better jab and the way better workrate. Plus Jones wasn't to happy retreating and Marvin was very hard to read.

How would Roy react when he realizes that he isn't in control of the fight? If he's not able to showboat and play with his opponent? Would he rush in and try to force something? I don't think since Roy way a pretty intelligent fighter but he'd surley get frustrated by the consistence and quality of Hagler. The more frustrated you get the higher risks you take and Roy can't afford to miss one of his jumping rights against Hagler.

In the end Marvin is the better fight and worker, has an advantage inside and outside, has more motivation and more experience. He'll dominate the fight and stop Roy late. If the bout went to the cards he'd get cheated bad for a third time.

[Mr. Violence]

i was reading this question hagler vs jones at another forum, and most picked jones by easy UD, late TKO(noway IMO). how do you guys think a fight between hagler and jones would go in their primes?

Hagler would have won by a vicious late KO.

[Palma]

Hey Palma how's it going bud. Yeah it's me, Sonny. I just felt like a change. Everything is going pretty good here in Sonny land. I'm enjoying watching the growth of taylor and Cotto. I think these two are going to be a great shot in the arm to boxing.

That's great news about your boys! I'll be sure to have ring side seats when your boys are fighting for the title.
You take care!