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  • TheGreatA
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    #21
    Originally posted by Easy-E
    Wlad didnt want to rematch Sanders because he is scared of fighting guys with no fear, power and a chin.
    He knew he would probably lose again.
    You forget that Sanders was already around 37-38 years old when he fought Wladimir. I don't see what a win over a 40 year old, overweight Sanders would have proved.

    I think it would've been a bit of a disgrace actually because when they fought at their relative bests, Sanders came out victorious. A rematch would've diminished his win.

    Originally posted by Easy-E
    you mean the lamon brewster coming off a loss, retina surgery and a one year layoff?
    Exactly what I mean.

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      #22
      Wlad didn't even belong in the same ring as Sanders, and he knew it.

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        #23
        Originally posted by TheGreatA
        You forget that Sanders was already around 37-38 years old when he fought Wladimir. I don't see what a win over a 40 year old, overweight Sanders would have proved.

        I think it would've been a bit of a disgrace actually because when they fought at their relative bests, Sanders came out victorious. A rematch would've diminished his win.



        Exactly what I mean.
        That Wlad was not scared to get in the ring with a hard puncher with good speed and a great chin. Something he is still reluctant to do.

        What are you talking about, relative bests. Sanders was 37 and past his prime.

        Brewster, with the exception of his Klitchsko win, has done very little in his career. Loss to Ettienne, loss to Charles Shufford. KO Luan Krasniqi behind on all the cards, and a questionable split decisions against Meehan.
        His only other solid win was against 5 loss Andrew "the headcase" Golota.
        Brewster has never been anything but a slow fighter with little technical skill and a good punch.

        Granted, Sanders never fought anyone great either, but he was always regarded for his potential and power in his left hand and not a fighter that was sought after. He was more skilled than Brewster.

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          #24
          Originally posted by Easy-E
          That Wlad was not scared to get in the ring with a hard puncher with good speed and a great chin. Something he is still reluctant to do.

          What are you talking about, relative bests. Sanders was 37 and past his prime.
          When Sanders was 28 he was being knocked out by nobodies like Nate Tubbs (Tony Tubbs's fatter, less talented brother).

          The man hardly trained for his fights and would rather play golf. The best shape I saw him was probably against Wladimir, which he realized would likely be his last (undeserved) shot at the title. He then turned up in terrible shape for the Vitali fight.

          Brewster, with the exception of his Klitchsko win, has done very little in his career. Loss to Ettienne, loss to Charles Shufford. KO Luan Krasniqi behind on all the cards, and a questionable split decisions against Meehan.
          His only other solid win was against 5 loss Andrew "the headcase" Golota.
          Brewster has never been anything but a slow fighter with little technical skill and a good punch.

          Granted, Sanders never fought anyone great either, but he was always regarded for his potential and power in his left hand and not a fighter that was sought after. He was more skilled than Brewster.
          Even Brewster was in a better career position than a 40 year old, out of shape Corrie Sanders. He was knocked out in one round by an unknown journeyman.

          A rematch between Wladimir and Sanders would have proved nothing.

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            #25
            Originally posted by TRAVI$
            ... to Ross Puritty and Corrie Sanders, affect the respect you have for him?
            I still respect him. But many people will always question this. Mostly for Sanders because he lost that one cleanly.

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              #26
              Originally posted by Easy-E
              That Wlad was not scared to get in the ring with a hard puncher with good speed and a great chin. Something he is still reluctant to do.

              What are you talking about, relative bests. Sanders was 37 and past his prime.

              Brewster, with the exception of his Klitchsko win, has done very little in his career. Loss to Ettienne, loss to Charles Shufford. KO Luan Krasniqi behind on all the cards, and a questionable split decisions against Meehan.
              His only other solid win was against 5 loss Andrew "the headcase" Golota.
              Brewster has never been anything but a slow fighter with little technical skill and a good punch.

              Granted, Sanders never fought anyone great either, but he was always regarded for his potential and power in his left hand and not a fighter that was sought after. He was more skilled than Brewster.

              100 percent true.

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                #27
                Originally posted by TheGreatA
                When Sanders was 28 he was being knocked out by nobodies like Nate Tubbs (Tony Tubbs's fatter, less talented brother).

                The man hardly trained for his fights and would rather play golf. The best shape I saw him was probably against Wladimir, which he realized would likely be his last (undeserved) shot at the title. He then turned up in terrible shape for the Vitali fight.



                Even Brewster was in a better career position than a 40 year old, out of shape Corrie Sanders. He was knocked out in one round by an unknown journeyman.

                A rematch between Wladimir and Sanders would have proved nothing.
                In 2008, consideribly before Wlad should have ever considered a rematch. Don't pretend that Sanders was in his prime against Wlad, it will just make you look foolish.

                If Wlad thought he could beat Sanders he would have rematched him immediatly, rather than let big bro fight his battles for him, as he always has. Wlad had no answer for Sanders, he was lucky to last one round against him. In the rematch he would have been terrified and it would have ruined his reputation more than it already had been.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by joseph5620

                  100 percent true.
                  I don't really see it. Did Wladimir really duck Sanders in your opinion?

                  Vitali pretty much beat him into retirement. At this time Wladimir was still trying to rebuild his career until being upset yet again by Lamon Brewster.

                  Wladimir won the title back in 2006 and Sanders made his comeback at 40 years of age, weighing a trim and ready 260 lbs in his comeback bout.

                  If you ask me, a rematch between the two at that point would've been a joke, no better than the Brewster rematch.

                  In 2008, consideribly before Wlad should have ever considered a rematch. Don't pretend that Sanders was in his prime against Wlad, it will just make you look foolish.

                  If Wlad thought he could beat Sanders he would have rematched him immediatly, rather than let big bro fight his battles for him, as he always has. Wlad had no answer for Sanders, he was lucky to last one round against him. In the rematch he would have been terrified and it would have ruined his reputation more than it already had been.
                  When was Sanders' prime then? He never even had a prime. The man was an under-achiever who performed in one fight and disappointed in all others.

                  Wladimir was hardly in the position to rematch Sanders after being destroyed in two rounds. Sanders and Vitali fought for the Ring magazine belt and after this fight Sanders was not relevant any longer.

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                    #29
                    I still have much respect for Wladamir Klitschko regardless if he avenged his losses to Sanders and Purrity or not.

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                      #30
                      [QUOTE=TheGreatA;5754829]I don't really see it. Did Wladimir really duck Sanders in your opinion?


                      Actually I was commenting on the lack of skills for Brewster and the fact that Sanders was no world beater.Sanders had quick hands and a good punch but the only top 10 heavyweight he ever beat was Wlad. His reputation was enhanced after the Wlad win to the point where he has became overrated. Although I think he was better than Brewster who is WAY overrated. In the end I personally don't hold it aginst Wlad for not rematching Sanders but people can make a case for it.
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