WTF with the Ring Magazine Rankings? They suck Badly

[TheSurgeonMDMPH]

We all acknowledge your beef with PW aka cotto's daddy. Lol! So I wont even get into that with u.

SSM over cotto is right on. All I have to say about that is the past is the past and the future is the future. SSM beat the man that beat the man. thats how it works in sports!

U cotto fans insist on making clottey into some kind of beast so it adds to cotto's resume. Lol. Cut it out! He beat a good fighter who fights well for the 1st 6-7 rds just like cotto. Period!

But its just champ bein champ so do your thing.

Post your p4p rankings for us to see. PlZ.

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But your right against Rafa Marquez he nor Vazquez should be there, when they were active they were clearly top p4p but there should be a limit of inactivity to be on that type of list.

[catalinul]

The Ring's rankings fell in my eyes since Oscar bought it.

[-Antonio-]

We all acknowledge your beef with PW aka cotto's daddy. Lol! So I wont even get into that with u.

SSM over cotto is right on. All I have to say about that is the past is the past and the future is the future. SSM beat the man that beat the man. thats how it works in sports!

U cotto fans insist on making clottey into some kind of beast so it adds to cotto's resume. Lol. Cut it out! He beat a good fighter who fights well for the 1st 6-7 rds just like cotto. Period!

But its just champ bein champ so do your thing.

Post your p4p rankings for us to see. PlZ.

Cotto went from 6th to completely off the list when he lost to Marg yet Mosley went from off the list to 4th by beating Marg. That's the only thing I don't get in that situation. Their ratings suck all the way around. That's not even the bgigest problem. At least Williams is on the list now.

[-Hyperion-]

I mean why they turn to be such ridiculous rankings?

I will start with the Super FlyWeight Division.

They have Nobuo Nashiro a fighter with a 12-1-0 record ranked number 3, they have Hugo Cazarez who has not had a fight at the weight yet ranked number 9, but they dont even have Jose Lopez ranked, and the guy is the WBO champ and hasnt lost a fight since 2001.

Noubuo Nashiro was a Champion with 8 fights, beating the fine Martin Castillo(a fringe p4p top 15 for some at that time, who had only lost a technical decision on a fight that was cut short by an accidental butt, after only 6 rounds), Nashiro has only lost to divisional power house Alex Munoz(who lost to Castillo twice....and Mijares) and has since captured an interim belt, Darchinyan-Mijares-Munoz and Montiel were the best of the division before, but now Mijares and Montiel have abandoned the division.

Cazarez beat former Flyweight champion Roberto Vasquez in the suerflyweight division

And while i agree Lopez deserves a ranking over some of the other ranked fighters, he was fighting very non descript opposition since losing to montiel, not to mention he won a vacant belt from a man with a tremndously padded record

BantamWeight Division

They have Johnny Perez ranked number 6, they have Fernando Montiel who only have 1 fight against a bum in the division at number 10, but the dont have Morel who has won 6 straight fights at BW and they took Peñalosa off the list, for moving up in weight a losing to JML.

Johnny Perez just beat Silence Mabuza, a bantamweight powerhouse, of course he deserves a good ranking.
Montiel has ventured to 118 over the years, but youre right, if he deserves a ranking, some other people do too.
Penalosa most likely told them he was campaigning at 122(like hes done before, since he had been chasing sbw fights against the likes of De Leon, Gonzalez, Marquez, Vazquez etc), then backtracked since the stars are moving to feather and he has not had luck landing a rematch with de leon and a rematch with gonzalez is pointless without the belt gonzalez failed to win.
Morel has mostly been fighting at catchweights above the bantam limit...against bad opposition.....
Super BantamWeight Division

Decent Rankings

FeatherWeight Division

Decent rankings, the only problem they have here, is that the have Riol Li Lee and Martin Honorio higher than Elio Rojas, who just Took Takahiro Ahos belt.
having honorio in there is crazy, however, Lee and Rojas are pretty even, Rojas has fought thrice in 2 years, and Aoh, his biggest win, drew with Enoki, Lee's biggest win
Super FeatherWeight Division

They have Klassen and Fana higher than Martinez and Linarez, wich is Bull ****, because Linarez and Martinez are both Champs, Both undefeated.


Linares has only had one fight at the weight against a bum(even if it was for a vacant title), as much as i like the kid, he doesnt deserve to be that high, Martinez is just starting to build his resume......Fana and Klassen have been very steady in that division for years......Fana was closely dethroned of his IBF belt by Baloyi and Klassen beat Baloyi.......like i said, all 3 have been layers in the division.

LightWeight Division

This rankings are somewhat wrong they have Rolando reyes, who wasnt even a top 15 LW over guys like Katsidiz,Funeka and Moses(WBA champ), just for beating Julio Diaz, wich is ridiculous. they have ****ing Miguel vazquez, who wanst even a top 20 LW at number 7, just beause he beated Prescott, who was ranked number 10.
prescott was #7, Vazquez took his ranking, ia gree, Reyes doesnt deserve to be above Katsidis and Funeka
Junior WelterWeight Division

Decent Rankings only fault is that Khan wasnt even a JWW and they ranked him number 4 and that they have Torres who is a WW now.
Kotelnik was #4, Khan took his rating(you do know the ring go by the philosohy of "you gotta beat the man to be the man, right?
I agree they should scrap Torres, who cant make 140 anymore )
WelterWeight Division

Fairly decent rankings, only problem is that they have Mosley at number 1 and Cotto number 2, and Cotto should be number 1, based on that he neat mosley and that he just beat the number 3 WW, while Mosley havent done **** besides struggle with mayorga and Sit his ass after his good win after Margarito.

Mosley-Cotto deal is controversial, most people thought Mosley-Margo shouldve been for the belt(#1 vs #3), so Cotto is lucky the title is even vacant, so under that premise, im gonn say the rating is fair.....even though i do think he is the best ww in the world...

Super WelterWeight Division

How the **** they have Williams at number 1, after just beating Phillips? Thats ridiculous. Dzinziruk or Forrest should be number one. they have Phillips Spinks and Mora higher than Martinez and Santos. Come on now?
The SWW division have the worst rankings by far.
williams is most likely the best, but i agree, one win in that division shouldnt give it to him, you fail however, by mentioning forrest as a possible #1...ducker, inactive and is 1-1 with sergio mora....Mora should exit the rankings since he cant even make weight, santos is inactive as ****, dziziruk should be tops, martinez should be higher, youre right, probably the worst rankings

MiddleWeight Division

Fairly decent rankings. How teh **** they have Williams at number 3 after beating a old ass Winky? After one fight and he is number 1 at SWW and number 3 at MW? WTF?

MW is ****......id kind of agree with williams at #3.....even if his resume there is ****(bums years ago, andy kolle and an old winky), he is so much better than the rest of the division......
Super MiddleWeight Division

Decent rankings

Light HeavyWeight Division

Good Rankings

CruiserWeight Division

Very good Rankings

HeavyWeight Division

Decent Rankings


P4P Rankings

First I will start by saying WTF is Nonito Donaire doing in there let alone higher than Williams and Cotto. And more so, they dont have Calderon in there, but they do have Donaire and Caballero. then they have 4 out of the first 5 GBP fighters. they have Mosley at number 4 wich is ridiculous given teh fact, Cotto beat him and After Cotto beat Clottey he go dropped 2 spots. So WTF with that? they have Rafa marquez whos last decent win was one 2 year and a half ago. they should have guys, like Hazegawa, Darchinyan, pavlik or John in there in the place of Donaire, marquez and even Caballero.
p4p is dumb as ****.....probably as dumb as our own boxingscene one

This rankings are too biases towards GBP fighters and they are very unorganize and they dont have any type of sistem in wich they can measure, rankings in a fairly manner.
not really, more like they hate cotto, and for some reason love caballero and donaire.....thats the strong biases that are detected in there, after all, most people think mosley and hopkins deserve a high ranking....and you cant not ***** about vazquez, yet ***** about rafa marquez, shows your bias.....

But people still follow them rankings and the ring mag like they are perfect or liek it was a damn gopel.

They are as bias or ****** as teh sanctioning bodies


But like i said I will admit, people lead from them. I hope they create a better ranking sistem, since they are the point of reference for most fans!

so in conclusion, while ring rankings have problems, you are ignorant in most of them, thank you come again....

[warp1432]

Marti kills it. I was just about to make this long ass post, but I'm glad he did it for me.

154 is the only place I have a problem with. I also think Joseph Agabeko should be above Sidorenko at Bantam too.

[warp1432]

Btw:

Nobou Nashiro (Not a GBP fighter)
Hugo Cazares (Not a GBP fighter)
Lee (Not a GBP fighter)
Martin Hornorio (Not a GBP fighter)
Miguel Vasquez (Not a GBP fighter)
Amir Khan (Not a GBP fighter)
Roalndo Reyes (Not a GBP fighter, I think)
Shane Mosley (A GBP fighter)
Paul Williams (Not a GBP fighter)
Celstino Caballero (Not a GBP fighter)
Rafeal Marquez (Not a GBP fighter)
Nonito Donaire (Not a GBP fighter)

All the people you bitched about aren't GBP fighters except for Mosley. Where's the bias again

[-Hyperion-]

Marti kills it. I was just about to make this long ass post, but I'm glad he did it for me.

154 is the only place I have a problem with. I also think Joseph Agabeko should be above Sidorenko at Bantam too.

you know how i roll

[-Hyperion-]

Btw:

Nobou Nashiro (Not a GBP fighter)
Hugo Cazares (Not a GBP fighter)
Lee (Not a GBP fighter)
Martin Hornorio (Not a GBP fighter)
Miguel Vasquez (Not a GBP fighter)
Amir Khan (Not a GBP fighter)
Roalndo Reyes (Not a GBP fighter, I think)
Shane Mosley (A GBP fighter)
Paul Williams (Not a GBP fighter)
Celstino Caballero (Not a GBP fighter)
Rafeal Marquez (Not a GBP fighter)
Nonito Donaire (Not a GBP fighter)

All the people you bitched about aren't GBP fighters except for Mosley. Where's the bias again

he is your typical boxing "expert" just rolling with the flow........

the GBP-Ring-HBO **** is so overblown by this arm chair eddie futches......

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the GBP-Ring-HBO **** is so overblown by this arm chair eddie futches......

You really think so, huh?

Just wait (in case you haven't seen how their comfy relationship with HBO has drawn the ire of many)...