Pac wants to contest Cotto’s title/ Cotto insists that it should be a Non Title!

[JAB5239]

JABS, of all fight fans, you know that's part of the game...

and to be honest, this might be more on Arum than anything...its an easy money-fight to make...he would preferred the easy route instead of hammering something out with Haymon and GBP for a REAL showcase fight with PBF and PAC

no titles, insane ppv numbers, more money...legacy fight

I understand it my friend, I just don't like it.

[mikelovesfood]

fine...140 then...if not, then we can scrap that fight too...im sure everyone would pretty much prefer to see PAC-Bradley and Floyd fight Berto or someone

keep it up. they need to see the real perspective.

[Silencers]

Seems to me that Cotto isn't that confident of victory, he maybe wants to keep the title in case he loses so that he can still get big-ish fights afterward.

[DonTaseMeBrah]

what's hypocritical is these so called purist fight fans/ the righteous fight fans who get all bent out of shape because of catch weights & titles on the line not on the line talk so tough on line when they have nothing on the line, nothing to gain or lose but just for the sake to be high & mighty act like a judge jury & executioner on whether a fight is legit or someone is weight drained, or if the fight should ever happen.

really conceited.

[MJ406]

I don't think Floyd fights at 140 .. so scrap it lol.

and what's the point of Floyd-Pac at 145 anyway?

do you realize how much of a problem these catchweight's potentially cause

take this whole thread for example

if no catchweight was involved this thread wouldn't exist.

as Cotto couldn't use the weight as an excuse since it wouldn't be a catchweight bout

**and people want to talk about all the "problems" boxing has i.e. pay per views, lack of network TV, greedy promoters, too many titles .. if you ask me catchweights should be right up on the list as well

look at all the problems they can create. Fights are hard enough to make with ducking, paydays and promoters .. among other things

do we really need fighters/trainers arguing over 1/2 or a pound? take the mock example

A: fight us at 139
B: no, we want the fight at 138 and won't fight at 139
A: please, it's an HBO date, your coming up in weight, why not?
B: no, 139 is not happening.
A: how bout 138.5?
B: Deal!

it's down right childish. there's too many weight divisions in boxing to have these catchweight bouts.

[JAB5239]

fine...140 then...if not, then we can scrap that fight too...im sure everyone would pretty much prefer to see PAC-Bradley and Floyd fight Berto or someone

keep it up. they need to see the real perspective.

So we should give in to money over integrity? Would Henry Armstrong be remembered so fondy or looked upon with such respect if he had been asking for catchweights? I think not.

[OnePunch]

To make it fair you oblivious COW!

@ 145 Cotto still has the weight advantage. FFS the guy weighed in at 146 at his last fight.

@145 he'll still be able to weight nearly 160 come fight night.

So "why pac wants cotto to weigh 2 to 4 lbs less?" Read the beginning again.

so then by your "brilliant" logic, every time a fighter moves up to challenge for a title in a higher weight division, its perfectly fine for him to "rework" the weight limits to his benefit??

Something tells me this has a lot more to do with you being a Pac fan, and a lot less to do with the actual merits of the issue.........

[mikelovesfood]

dude, you know Roach was trying to get the weight lower then 145 right?

like I heard even 143 was being talked about.


what if it was 145 or no fight?

and considering Cotto's other fight options out there, he almost had to take the fight vs Pacquiao (especially for the money)

so how do you figure Cotto is "comfortable" at 145? Miguel weighed 146 vs Clottey .. Roach was pushing for 143, 144 they settled on 145 and fight made

that sounds more like a bargain then Cotto "being comfortable" with weighting under the limit.

of course if he could of have it his way he'd ask for 50/50 and no catchweight involved. not the case though is it?

pac wasnt signing a 45 fight til arum found out cotto had signed it first forcing arum to give pac a "bonus". to make the fight happen.

of course cotto doesnt want the fight at 145 but he signed the contract anyways because the reward outweighed the risk.

if cotto can sign the fight at 45 to acknowledge his fight w/ the little man and at the same time refuse to put the belt on the line then thats just ****ed up. cotto did NOT have to sign the catchweight contract. he could've held out. i'm sure a lot of ppl would be interested in seeing a mosley v. cotto rematch.

[-MAKAVELLI-]

[B]

I understand it my friend, I just don't like it.

i hear ya bud...money talks and in boxing, it barks orders

I don't think Floyd fights at 140 .. so scrap it lol.

and what's the point of Floyd-Pac at 145 anyway?

do you realize how much of a problem these catchweight's potentially cause

take this whole thread for example

if no catchweight was involved this thread wouldn't exist.

as Cotto couldn't use the weight as an excuse since it wouldn't be a catchweight belt

**and people want to talk about all the "problems" boxing has i.e. pay per views, lack of network TV, greedy promoters, too many titles .. if you ask me catchweights should be right up on the list as well

look at all the problems they can create. Fights are hard enough to make with ducking, paydays and promoters .. among other things

do we really need fighters/trainers arguing over 1/2 or a pound? take the mock example

A: fight us at 139
B: no, we want the fight at 138 and won't fight at 139
A: please, it's an HBO date, your coming up in weight, why not?
B: no, 139 is not happening.
A: how bout 138.5?
B: Deal!

it's down right childish. there's too many weight divisions in boxing to have these catchweight bouts.

you should protest and not watch the fight....dont expose yourself to such a childish bout

[JAB5239]

[QUOTE=MJ406;5745167]I don't think Floyd fights at 140 .. so scrap it lol.

and what's the point of Floyd-Pac at 145 anyway?

do you realize how much of a problem these catchweight's potentially cause

take this whole thread for example

if no catchweight was involved this thread wouldn't exist.

as Cotto couldn't use the weight as an excuse since it wouldn't be a catchweight belt

**and people want to talk about all the "problems" boxing has i.e. pay per views, lack of network TV, greedy promoters, too many titles .. if you ask me catchweights should be right up on the list as well

look at all the problems they can create. Fights are hard enough to make with ducking, paydays and promoters .. among other things

do we really need fighters/trainers arguing over 1/2 or a pound? take the mock example

A: fight us at 139
B: no, we want the fight at 138 and won't fight at 139
A: please, it's an HBO date, your coming up in weight, why not?
B: no, 139 is not happening.
A: how bout 138.5?
B: Deal!

it's down right childish. there's too many weight divisions in boxing to have these catchweight bouts.[/QUOTE]

...Exactly!!...