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its time that we admitted that John Ruiz as much as we hate it is one of the best heavyweights out here right now. I recently read something on the is roy jones overrated thread that said Ruiz is a bum but it just isnt true. Ruiz has beat most of the contenders out there and he seems to always be able to find a way to win
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Yeah, by hugging his opponet to death!Originally posted by bobbyjones -
yeah he is one of the best, but that doesnt say anything when you got fighters like Brewster who got murdered and won a title, You got fat ass Peters as a contender where he beat bums like Yanqui Diaz in a phone booth. You also have fighter uve been KO out the ring in Rahaman and Monte Barret who beat sum random guy and becomes #1 contender. The only good Heavyweight are Golota, Byrd and Vitali. and Golota is retarted (alhtought he seems to be cured) which will never win because Don King is his promoter. Bryd is not even in the same leagues as Vitali. Vitali is the best fighter we've had since Lewis (proably would beat Lewis)Comment
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Okay, he is one of the top heavyweights but that speaks to a couple of reasons. Firslty he cheats, plain and simple he cheats. He had 190 clinches in his last fight and that worthless fat **** Randy Neuman didn't do ****. You can't hold excessively and Ruiz makes the word excesseively seem like an understatement. Looked what happened when he was in with Jay Nady when he fought Jones a referee who didn't let him cheat. He got ****ing thumped by Jones. When Ruiz can't clinch all the time he gets beat.
He is also a top HW because the HW division is a ****ing disgace.
Bottomline is that Ruiz is winninng because he is allowed to cheat. When he can't hold, he is pretty much worthless...Comment
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He's not really underrated compared to any of the heavyweight champs.
Everyone in the heavyweight division is rated just about right.
Byrd was underrated when he was better than he is now, though..
Vitali is the man to beat, because he's probably the king of the heavyweights right now, but he sucks too (look how he fights..)
Brewster...I don't know **** about him, but he can't be that good..Comment
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How can anyone even think he's the BEST when he hug more than he fights. That's BS. After all, this is boxing. Tell it to his face to box more and he would pause because he simply can't. Remember he promise to put on a show before the Golota bout? He tried but he was outboxed by Golota and couldn't keep his words. Most of the fighters out there, including below average one, could simply do what he does and be successful. But their pride won't let them to be humiliated.Comment
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I guess Ruiz is underrated, but hes been in some of the most boring & unteresting fights in the history of the sport so I just can like the guy that much.Comment
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BTw, it's hard to believe anything he says about boxing when he doesn't even know anything about it outside the ring. And I think for good reason; I don't think he can handle all the stuff about him in the media and the boxing community. But I wish he should at least watch boxing fights.Comment
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Ruiz is just boring as hell...He should be banned from televised boxing.Comment
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Originally posted by bobbyjones
John Ruiz is ass. He is a bum. The first time he fights and a referee penalizes him for his man hugging (which yes, it is illegal), he's going to get KTFO. Watch his fight against David Tua. Ruiz is average. Jones made him look like he didnt belong being a professional boxer. His only way to win is to punch and clinch. Excessive clinching is illegal. In his fight against Golota, Ruiz had MORE CLINCHES than PUNCHES LANDED. Sorry, but you are wrong. Ruiz is not underrated. He shouldnt be rated at all.Last edited by MetalVomit; 02-16-2005, 08:47 PM.Comment
to your mom..
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