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  • street bully
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    Why is it that when a fight suppposed to be competitive...

    Ends in a KO in the first 3 rounds, or a 12 round clinic the loser is always saud to be overrated, even though they were supposed to either win the fight, or make it very competitive on paper?

    Examples could be Manny Pacquiao against Oscar Dela **** and Ricky Hatton. If he had went easy on the for a few rounds then picked it up he would have been called the greatest thing since sliced bread, but he does what he is supposed to do and whoops ass from round one and makes both his bitches and then gets labeled as overrated.

    Another example is Bernard Hopkins. On paper he was supposed to lose to Trinidad, Tarver, Winky, and Pavlik, and a good percentage said he would get destroyed and lose by KO to three of these four fighters. What does he do? Being the professor he is, even though he is older than all of them, and is well into his 40's he puts clinics on and makes all of them look like fools leaving each of them heartless and taking their sould and ruining their careers in the process. After each legacy making win the opponents who were each at the best points of thier careers are seen as overrated wins, and people somehow expect even more froma 44 year old man who just put ona clinic against a P4P fighter.

    One more example could be Paul Williams. He loses a close fight to Quintana, gets busted up a bit. All the while he has a mowhawk, and the brothers here will know that, if a brother has a mowhawk he has been partying it up with white girls the day before, hence P Will not being properly prepared for the fight. Following that what does he do? He moves his training camp from a beach resort to DC trains properly, and then brutalizes Quintana in the opening round with 30 unanswered punches in a fight most said he would lose, and even get stopped in. But seeing how impressive he looked, he is lablled as being overrated since he got it done in 1 instead of 8. He then moves up 2 divisions to 160 to fight a top 3 MW in Winky Wright, and shuts him out in a 11-1 landslide victory over an opponent who has never been humiliated in his career, not to mention Williams has spent most of his career at 147. But seeing how spectacular he looked the excuses were made, and the Wright win was seen as overrated.

    I guess the only way a fighter can not be overrated is if they go through hell to win a la JMM vs Diaz and finish their fight late after taking damage rather than destroying their competition, or schooling them.
    Last edited by street bully; 07-19-2009, 02:44 PM.
  • NorvernRob
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    #2
    100% true.

    I'll also add the fact that when unpopular fighters win fights convincingly that were supposed to be close, the other fighter is deemed as being 'shot' and 'a bum' even though before the fight most people picked them to win.

    Reverse that for popular fighters, who's opponents are never accused of being 'shot'.

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      Cats don't expect 1 sided ass whoopins in big fights between 2 names. When it happens, the loser instantly becomes sumthin less than what he was supposed to be. Sumtimes it may be true if it was the guy's 1st big fight or sumthin, but most of the time it's just a way to make excuses to discredit the winner.

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      • street bully
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        #4
        Any other thoughts?

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          #5
          Originally posted by street bully
          Ends in a KO in the first 3 rounds, or a 12 round clinic the loser is always saud to be overrated, even though they were supposed to either win the fight, or make it very competitive on paper?

          Examples could be Manny Pacquiao against Oscar Dela **** and Ricky Hatton. If he had went easy on the for a few rounds then picked it up he would have been called the greatest thing since sliced bread, but he does what he is supposed to do and whoops ass from round one and makes both his bitches and then gets labeled as overrated.

          Another example is Bernard Hopkins. On paper he was supposed to lose to Trinidad, Tarver, Winky, and Pavlik, and a good percentage said he would get destroyed and lose by KO to three of these four fighters. What does he do? Being the professor he is, even though he is older than all of them, and is well into his 40's he puts clinics on and makes all of them look like fools leaving each of them heartless and taking their sould and ruining their careers in the process. After each legacy making win the opponents who were each at the best points of thier careers are seen as overrated wins, and people somehow expect even more froma 44 year old man who just put ona clinic against a P4P fighter.

          One more example could be Paul Williams. He loses a close fight to Quintana, gets busted up a bit. All the while he has a mowhawk, and the brothers here will know that, if a brother has a mowhawk he has been partying it up with white girls the day before, hence P Will not being properly prepared for the fight. Following that what does he do? He moves his training camp from a beach resort to DC trains properly, and then brutalizes Quintana in the opening round with 30 unanswered punches in a fight most said he would lose, and even get stopped in. But seeing how impressive he looked, he is lablled as being overrated since he got it done in 1 instead of 8. He then moves up 2 divisions to 180 to fight a top 3 MW in Winky Wright, and shuts him out ina 11-1 landslide victory over an opponent who has never been humiliated in his career, not to mention Williams has spent most of his career at 147. But seeing how spectacular he looked the excuses were made, and the Wright win was seen as overrated.

          I guess the only way a fighter can not be overrated is if they go through hell to win a la JMM vs Diaz and finish their fight late after taking damage rather than destroying their competition, or schooling them.

          its the the skill gap... its not that the opposition are bad fighters

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            #6
            Good thread from a good poster, I'm glad there's some sense left in this board.

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              #7
              Originally posted by mangler
              Cats don't expect 1 sided ass whoopins in big fights between 2 names. When it happens, the loser instantly becomes sumthin less than what he was supposed to be. Sumtimes it may be true if it was the guy's 1st big fight or sumthin, but most of the time it's just a way to make excuses to discredit the winner.



              co ****ing sign... mang, i can never disagree with ya lolz

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              • dde91
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                #8
                Originally posted by street bully
                Ends in a KO in the first 3 rounds, or a 12 round clinic the loser is always saud to be overrated, even though they were supposed to either win the fight, or make it very competitive on paper?

                Examples could be Manny Pacquiao against Oscar Dela **** and Ricky Hatton. If he had went easy on the for a few rounds then picked it up he would have been called the greatest thing since sliced bread, but he does what he is supposed to do and whoops ass from round one and makes both his bitches and then gets labeled as overrated.

                Another example is Bernard Hopkins. On paper he was supposed to lose to Trinidad, Tarver, Winky, and Pavlik, and a good percentage said he would get destroyed and lose by KO to three of these four fighters. What does he do? Being the professor he is, even though he is older than all of them, and is well into his 40's he puts clinics on and makes all of them look like fools leaving each of them heartless and taking their sould and ruining their careers in the process. After each legacy making win the opponents who were each at the best points of thier careers are seen as overrated wins, and people somehow expect even more froma 44 year old man who just put ona clinic against a P4P fighter.

                One more example could be Paul Williams. He loses a close fight to Quintana, gets busted up a bit. All the while he has a mowhawk, and the brothers here will know that, if a brother has a mowhawk he has been partying it up with white girls the day before, hence P Will not being properly prepared for the fight. Following that what does he do? He moves his training camp from a beach resort to DC trains properly, and then brutalizes Quintana in the opening round with 30 unanswered punches in a fight most said he would lose, and even get stopped in. But seeing how impressive he looked, he is lablled as being overrated since he got it done in 1 instead of 8. He then moves up 2 divisions to 160 to fight a top 3 MW in Winky Wright, and shuts him out in a 11-1 landslide victory over an opponent who has never been humiliated in his career, not to mention Williams has spent most of his career at 147. But seeing how spectacular he looked the excuses were made, and the Wright win was seen as overrated.

                I guess the only way a fighter can not be overrated is if they go through hell to win a la JMM vs Diaz and finish their fight late after taking damage rather than destroying their competition, or schooling them.
                WOW... You nailed it perfect.. Everybody or just about everybody was saying Pacquaio was going to lose to Hatton because Hatton isn't shot, weight drained, etc... but when he losses.. Now all i see in these post from people is that Hatton is Shot. lol it makes me laugh that just awhile ago, he was the MAN at 140, now that he losses, They say everybody can beat him (because pacquiao did) lol it's ****** non sense

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                • nujabes77
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by dde91
                  WOW... You nailed it perfect.. Everybody or just about everybody was saying Pacquaio was going to lose to Hatton because Hatton isn't shot, weight drained, etc... but when he losses.. Now all i see in these post from people is that Hatton is Shot. lol it makes me laugh that just awhile ago, he was the MAN at 140, now that he losses, They say everybody can beat him (because pacquiao did) lol it's ****** non sense


                  try to dig up the posts pre hatton/odlh fight for comic relief

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                  • MANGLER
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                    Originally posted by mangler jr
                    Good thread from a good poster, I'm glad there's some sense left in this board.
                    Wasup Jr? Hope the ***** is still treatin ya nice. Wish I coulda taken an extended summer vacation myself. Stay wet man.

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