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Originally posted by JmH Reborn View PostShane was like 24-26 when he was 135. Shane's now like 37. He's 5'9, full of muscle.
It's been 10 years. Just like it was 10 years for Oscar. This one is going to be ugly. Shane will get beat up. But hey, Pac will get credit because Shane offered the weight.
Cotto knows his limits, Shane should know his, but he's paper chasing. I guess people will do what they need to do, no matter the consequence.
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It's not that hard to grasp the concept of what's going on with the elite echelon of the WW's.
- Cotto has one fight left with Top Rank. He may jump ship to GBP or stay on his own so, of course, Arum wants to get the most money out of him for his last fight. Thus, the Pacquiao fight will be made.
- Pacquiao is not running away from anybody, but his preference is definitely not Cotto. He'd rather fight Mosley (because he can get more concessions out of him; like more money and 140 lbs.) or Mayweather before Manny loses to a Cotto or a Mosley and their dream matchup - which will happen in the future - loses some of its luster. Manny will end up fighting Cotto in November anyway.
- Mosley knocked out an overrated Margarito who couldn't fight and beat elite guys - Mosley, Cotto, Pacquiao or P. Will - plaster free. We will see this when the Cotto rematch happens; because it definitely will. There's too much money on that one to let it go. Mosley is made out to be this monster because he knocked out a shell-shocked Margarito who: a) didn't have the same preparation and detrmination as for the Cotto fight; and b) was somewhat softened by Cotto. Regardless of the plaster situation, Margarito was able to take everything Cotto threw at him without being visibly stunned one single time. Whether he cheated or not, his chin and stamina are admirable. But he did take a lot of punches during that fight. I think Mosley won't ever again look as good as he did against Margo. He went for 11 close rounds with a shot Mayorga less than a year ago before knocking him out in the 12th. He looked awful in that fight. Heed my word, Mosley will lose his next fight unless he fights a bum.
- And for Paul Williams, nobody wants to fight poor Paul at welterweight. NOBODY! Even my boy Miguel "Fearless" Cotto. He's just too good. He's better off going to MW and fighting "The Vanilla Ghost" Pavlik.Last edited by sangresabia; 07-17-2009, 03:47 PM.
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Originally posted by raycorey View PostThis now is beyond desperate, Mosley really must have money troubles and he's looking to cash out.
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Originally posted by OnePunch View Postbut when you come out and say you are "never going back to 135", then you are no longer just the "smaller guy".
If Pac can no longer make 135, then he is a full fledged JWW, REGARDLESS of where he started.....
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Originally posted by boxingfan76 View Postpac isnt so small i dont buy into that whole thinking,
he thoroughly pounded hoya, at 147, i agree every fight is difficult, but given pac dominance and recent history of facing only previously kod guys ,he is a coward for not facing mosley
for instance mosley smaller and older than delahoya was ,but team pac knows that mosley isnt shot thats where the cowardice comes in, no excuse 140lbs37 years old pac doesnt take that fight he is very much an opportunistic fighter and cowardly in his opponent selection.
Originally posted by boxingfan76 View Postwill he take credit as a full blown welterweight win ?pFFFFFFFFFFFF
Originally posted by boxingfan76 View Postand even if all that is true which i dont believe at all, pac wont face him tooooo risky.garunteed pac wont have the balls to face mosley.
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Originally posted by raycorey View PostRoach already said they were KILLING pac just to make 135 and that 140 would be their best weight, Manny isnt the little guy that some people like to claim on here.
pac is much much smaller than any WW.
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Originally posted by boxingfan76 View Postthis isnt desperate boys its called glory and legacy , you think shane needs money? pff been cashing in longer than pac has maybe not as big of purses but much longer,big paydays
Sorry but this has desperacy written all over it, If this was about legacy then Mosley would chase bigger challenges not pac.
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Originally posted by GetSumBrah View Postwhat recent history of previously knocked out guys?
david diaz was previously knocked out before pac got to him?
jmm was previously knocked out before pac got to him?
oscar was previously knocked out before pac got to him?
your talking about ricky? the same guy who won 2 fights in lopsided decisions before pac got to him?
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hearns ko'd duran
foreman ko'd frazier
holyfield ko'd tyson
salvador ko'd azumah
anybody who beats those guys shouldnt get credit huh? & thats just other greats knocking out other greats. very very small sample.
what about greats that got knocked by lesser fighters?
stop with the selective scrutiny. u fail brah.
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Originally posted by Pullcounter View Postand yet he officially weighed 138 lbs against hatton!
pac is much much smaller than any WW.
And what did Pac weigh on fight night??? And am not comparing pac to any WW just pointing out that pac isnt 16 years old anymore and how him and his team confesses to struggling to make weight at 135.
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