Better wins?..Hatton and Oscar or Diaz and Casa.

**Alex.Hdz** · 07-14-2009, 10:04 PM

JMM's wins are far more meaninful than Pacquiao's. JMM fought real opponents, never has had any advantages over anybody, they don't make them like him anymore, he might be the last of that breed. TRUE WARRIOR!

**KennyWeldon** · 07-14-2009, 10:07 PM

Juan Manuel Marquez takes it!

**-EX-** · 07-14-2009, 10:12 PM

Between those 2 probably JMM but...

Hatton- good fighter, never recovered from suffering KO loss to Floyd
Oscar- old and weight drained...WELL below his natural weight
Diaz- good fighter...was champion, but clearly flawed
Casamayor- pretty good fighter but is up there in age

**KennyWeldon** · 07-14-2009, 10:17 PM

Originally posted by The_Executioner

Between those 2 probably JMM but...

Hatton- good fighter, never recovered from suffering KO loss to Floyd
Oscar- old and weight drained...WELL below his natural weight
Diaz- good fighter...was champion, but clearly flawed
Casamayor- pretty good fighter but is up there in age

you do realize jmm and casamayor are like the same age right??

**shogunn** · 07-14-2009, 10:19 PM

Manny wasnt punched in the past 2 fights. I'd like to give credit to Manny for beating his oppnents but these days it's a knock on him for doing so. The excuses I'll hear is ODLH was weighed drained and Hatton is ******ed.

Im not trying to knock JMM but everyone is glorying those wins, to the point where they're overrated. But I expect that from this board.

FACT: ODLH was younger and weighed more than Casamayor when he fought Manny. Manny fought the bigger fighter.

Hatton only had 1 loss and I believe would KO Juan Diaz and take it to JMM.

**Uncle Ruckus** · 07-14-2009, 10:23 PM

marquez faced the real opposition and did not make his opponents come in like 10 pounds ligher than their natural weight and come in lookin like zombies, infact he gave up his advantages just to fight.

**-EX-** · 07-14-2009, 10:26 PM

Originally posted by KennyWeldon

you do realize jmm and casamayor are like the same age right??

Yea...doesn't change the fact that Casamayor is older

Hopkins-Calzaghe could be a different fight if both guys are in their primes...idk if Joe was prime during that fight either

**MaD RoBoT** · 07-14-2009, 10:26 PM

They're both good wins IMO

But Pac dominated his opponents while JMM struggled early, only to knock them in late rounds

**johncods** · 07-14-2009, 10:26 PM

Casa was coming of a beating from santa cruz and got a GIFT decision(complete BS decision) and his 38 yrs old...
Diaz is a YOUNG up and coming fighter very inexperiend when it comes to elite level and proof was his defeat from campbell and JMM..

U guys can discredit PAC's win all u want now...

Better wins?..Hatton and Oscar or Diaz and Casa.