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  • If Floyd accepts 50/50 he is an idiot..period. From a business standpoint
    Manny Pacquiao has not proven he has the same economic draw as Mayweather. Furthermore Floyd Mayweather has more more prestige than Manny Pacquiao.


    But More importantly.

    Professional Boxing is obviously a very competitive "industry". Every year, hundreds of fighters turn professional, and every year the people who were usually on top of the sport the previous year fall victim to new fighters that intend to take that fighters spot. The number of openings is always growing, and the number of candidates continues to grow every year.

    What this means is, If you are on top You need to strike while your rod is hot.
    And take advantage of every advantage you have, And do not take a cent less than what you are worth. Because at the end of the day, it is only you who is in the ring, and Boxing dont have social security or a health care plan to fall back on like other Professional sports leagues do.

    So what they make now, is what they are going to have to live on when they are old. That is why risk vs. reward in boxing is so important.
    Because boxing unlike other sports. Does not have a safety net.



    Let's Take Shane Mosley for example:

    He's made the worst business decisions of any elite fighter arguably in the last 10 years when it has comes to his career. Whether it be turning his boss down in a third fight for $10 million after beating him twice, going to fight Winky Wright in back-to-back fights for a little over $5 million or having an opportunity to fight Floyd in November 2006 for a career payday, $8 million, but instead he chose to get dental work done and take a family vacation after coming off a tremendous performance in the Vargas fight. Just a couple years ago after losing to Winky twice, he was fighting on an ESPN undercard and from there, an HBO undercard fight on Barrera's show. These are just a few examples of why it is very important to take advantage of your momentum while you can and to know your value in the sport.



    Professional Fighters usually have to fight a decade or more before they can even see a million dollar payday if they are lucky. They usually start off fighting for purses like $3,000 and for those who are lucky to make it onto the top of the sport.
    They REALLY have to play their cards right because 1 loss may not kill your market value, but one loss with the addition to being underpaid can kill your bargaining power the next time you fight a high profile opponent if you are lucky.

    In this environment, it is easy to see why a Fighter would want to make as much money as possible, as quickly as possible.

    He never knows when the golden goose is going to die. leaving him to a life of broadcasting or a happy retirement if he’s lucky, or automobile sales and fighting way past his prime if he's not so lucky.



    So Floyd Stick to your guns, Manny Pacquiao is not undefeated
    and Manny Pacquiao has not done what you have done at the box office.


    **** Manny Pacquiao only gets 73% of his money, so that let you know what kind of businessman he is.


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    • Originally posted by Spacey1991 View Post
      I agree with the Floyd part, but... peoples can't just discredit everything he says then agree with it whenever it suits them... that's just ******. Some of the stuff Floyd says is absolutely ****** but too many people take to it when they can ignore it... truth is he can't take a dump without getting flamed on.

      Ehh, I dunno about Pacquiao being more popular, its close... they both are very popular and Pacquiao is the biggest star in Boxing now, but saying he isn't as popular is kinda ****** IMO.

      It is like I keep saying, the fight is in high demand for a reason... not just for one fighter... but for both fighters, 50/50 is fair and 40/40 + 20 to winner is fairer, makes sense cause if they say "No I want lions share" you can just say "Well you will if you win, aren't you confident in winning?!"... I just wanna see the fight if Floyd beats JMM, we dunno how he is after retirement yet.

      Like I said, negotiations are negotiations... both sides have said they want 60/40 so we can't just blame Floyd for it, both sides will go in trying to get as much as they possibly can, you can't blame them for it... if you had the chance to get $20,000,000 or $25,000,000 with some negotiating you would pick $25,000,000 right?
      Not saying Floyd isn't popular by any means and yea its close in the USA, but globally it's a no brainer. Worldwide Pac is far bigger. He's made Time mag 100 most influential, he's made Forbes top 100 paid athletes, he's got 100,000,000 that live n die with him, etc etc. The Boston Celtics rushing out after game 7 vs the bulls to catch the pacman fight was amazing. Clinton wanting pics with him. He's doing a commercial with Kobe. Got his own Nike line, etc. No way is Floyd close to Pac's popularity globally im sorry.

      Again im fine with 50/50 but can't justfiy Floyd getting more.

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      • Originally posted by Horus View Post
        If Floyd accepts 50/50 he is an idiot..period. From a business standpoint
        Manny Pacquiao has not proven he has the same economic draw as Mayweather. Furthermore Floyd Mayweather has more more prestige than Manny Pacquiao.


        But More importantly.

        Professional Boxing is obviously a very competitive "industry". Every year, hundreds of fighters turn professional, and every year the people who were usually on top of the sport the previous year fall victim to new fighters that intend to take that fighters spot. The number of openings is always growing, and the number of candidates continues to grow every year.

        What this means is, If you are on top You need to strike while your rod is hot.
        And take advantage of every advantage you have, And do not take a cent less than what you are worth. Because at the end of the day, it is only you who is in the ring, and Boxing dont have social security or a health care plan to fall back on like other Professional sports leagues do.

        So what they make now, is what they are going to have to live on when they are old. That is why risk vs. reward in boxing is so important.
        Because boxing unlike other sports. Does not have a safety net.



        Let's Take Shane Mosley for example:

        He's made the worst business decisions of any elite fighter arguably in the last 10 years when it has comes to his career. Whether it be turning his boss down in a third fight for $10 million after beating him twice, going to fight Winky Wright in back-to-back fights for a little over $5 million or having an opportunity to fight Floyd in November 2006 for a career payday, $8 million, but instead he chose to get dental work done and take a family vacation after coming off a tremendous performance in the Vargas fight. Just a couple years ago after losing to Winky twice, he was fighting on an ESPN undercard and from there, an HBO undercard fight on Barrera's show. These are just a few examples of why it is very important to take advantage of your momentum while you can and to know your value in the sport.



        Professional Fighters usually have to fight a decade or more before they can even see a million dollar payday if they are lucky. They usually start off fighting for purses like $3,000 and for those who are lucky to make it onto the top of the sport.
        They REALLY have to play their cards right because 1 loss may not kill your market value, but one loss with the addition to being underpaid can kill your bargaining power the next time you fight a high profile opponent if you are lucky.

        In this environment, it is easy to see why a Fighter would want to make as much money as possible, as quickly as possible.

        He never knows when the golden goose is going to die. leaving him to a life of broadcasting or a happy retirement if he’s lucky, or automobile sales and fighting way past his prime if he's not so lucky.



        So Floyd Stick to your guns, Manny Pacquiao is not undefeated
        and Manny Pacquiao has not done what you have done at the box office.


        **** Manny Pacquiao only gets 73% of his money, so that let you know what kind of businessman he is.


        Floyd hasn't fought in 2 years. You have no idea how he's going to do vs. Marquez. 2007 is not 2009. If he flops vs. Marquez or has trouble selling tickets you just wasted 10 minutes of your life typing this garbage.

        You need to remember Pac is the more accomplished fighter. He's achieved more in less time. Mayweather needs Pacman more than Pacman needs Mayweather based on this. It's that simple. And i'm talking from a general point of view, not an obsessed hugger like yourself. Need not send 2 paragraphs back just do a poll.

        LOL @ Mayweather has more prestige? WTF does that mean that in 2009 he's having a tough time selling tickers? Just stop.

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        • It's all well and good, cause Floyd will still earn a very respectable amount
          regardless.

          They both stand to make a delicious amount from PPV, Live Gates, Commercial Endorsements, re-match clauses, etc.

          There's plenty of dough to be made.

          The fans will miss out on a great fight if it doesn't come off and will grow sour over the months.

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          • Originally posted by sandyvahra View Post
            Floyd hasn't fought in 2 years. You have no idea how he's going to do vs. Marquez. 2007 is not 2009. If he flops vs. Marquez or has trouble selling tickets you just wasted 10 minutes of your life typing this garbage.

            You need to remember Pac is the more accomplished fighter. He's achieved more in less time. Mayweather needs Pacman more than Pacman needs Mayweather based on this. It's that simple. And i'm talking from a general point of view, not an obsessed hugger like yourself. Need not send 2 paragraphs back just do a poll.

            LOL @ Mayweather has more prestige? WTF does that mean that in 2009 he's having a tough time selling tickers? Just stop.
            Manny Pacquiao has been Knock out!
            Manny Pacquiao has been beat by a past his prime Morales!
            Manny Pacquiao has gotten a draw and a 1 point decision win with a fighter he down 5 times!

            You need to remember Pacquiao JUST RECENTLY became considered the a top 10 fighter.

            He recently just got on the Pound for Pound list in 2004..when he has been a pro just 1995..

            From a General Point of view, Pacquiao has not sold more P.P.V than Mayweather when fighting the same opponent.

            From a General Point of view, Pacquiao is not a complete fighter. When you compared him to Mayweather.

            From a General Point of view,
            Floyd Mayweather is more Prestigious than Manny Pacquiao.

            Floyd has been considered a great fight since 1998, he turned pro in 1996.
            Manny Pacquiao has recently just became consider a great fighter in 2004.
            he turn pro in 1995.


            Floyd was Ranked on Ring Magazine's pound-for-pound list for TEN consecutive years. 10 years.

            Pacquiao was has only been on there half of that time.

            Floyd has spent Three Years Atop of that List: 2005,2006,2007, End Jun/2008 (retire)
            1. 2005: http://www.boxrec.com/media/index.ph..._Ratings:_2005
            2. 2006: http://www.boxrec.com/media/index.ph..._Ratings:_2006
            3. 2007: http://www.boxrec.com/media/index.ph..._Ratings:_2007

            Pacquiao has only spent 1 year ontop of that list..
            2008:http://www.boxrec.com/media/index.ph..._Ratings:_2008


            Get your **** straight.
            I deal with facts.
            You deal with conspiracy theories

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            • Why have boxers like PBF got such big egos for no reason. Pac got beat by Morales so dont deserve as much money as PBF? How long ago was it ago that Morales beat Pac? When Morales was in his prime and Pac wasnt! Pac has improved a lot since then. And morales is probably better than anyone PBF has ever fought!

              Why cant PBF understand that Pac is the No1 boxer in the world on paper now. If PBF wants that title back, he needs to get in the ring and beat him. He might beat him. But he dont need to talk about getting paid as much as Pac. He will be rewarded for his efforts. He wont go hungry.

              Just get in the ring PBF and quit talking money.

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              • What on earth does PBF mean that Pac hasnt done anything he hasnt done?
                Pac destroyed Hatton and DLH more efficicently thats for sure. That alone he should get more money.

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                • Originally posted by Horus View Post
                  If Floyd accepts 50/50 he is an idiot..period. From a business standpoint
                  Manny Pacquiao has not proven he has the same economic draw as Mayweather. Furthermore Floyd Mayweather has more more prestige than Manny Pacquiao.


                  But More importantly.

                  Professional Boxing is obviously a very competitive "industry". Every year, hundreds of fighters turn professional, and every year the people who were usually on top of the sport the previous year fall victim to new fighters that intend to take that fighters spot. The number of openings is always growing, and the number of candidates continues to grow every year.

                  What this means is, If you are on top You need to strike while your rod is hot.
                  And take advantage of every advantage you have, And do not take a cent less than what you are worth. Because at the end of the day, it is only you who is in the ring, and Boxing dont have social security or a health care plan to fall back on like other Professional sports leagues do.

                  So what they make now, is what they are going to have to live on when they are old. That is why risk vs. reward in boxing is so important.
                  Because boxing unlike other sports. Does not have a safety net.



                  Let's Take Shane Mosley for example:

                  He's made the worst business decisions of any elite fighter arguably in the last 10 years when it has comes to his career. Whether it be turning his boss down in a third fight for $10 million after beating him twice, going to fight Winky Wright in back-to-back fights for a little over $5 million or having an opportunity to fight Floyd in November 2006 for a career payday, $8 million, but instead he chose to get dental work done and take a family vacation after coming off a tremendous performance in the Vargas fight. Just a couple years ago after losing to Winky twice, he was fighting on an ESPN undercard and from there, an HBO undercard fight on Barrera's show. These are just a few examples of why it is very important to take advantage of your momentum while you can and to know your value in the sport.



                  Professional Fighters usually have to fight a decade or more before they can even see a million dollar payday if they are lucky. They usually start off fighting for purses like $3,000 and for those who are lucky to make it onto the top of the sport.
                  They REALLY have to play their cards right because 1 loss may not kill your market value, but one loss with the addition to being underpaid can kill your bargaining power the next time you fight a high profile opponent if you are lucky.

                  In this environment, it is easy to see why a Fighter would want to make as much money as possible, as quickly as possible.

                  He never knows when the golden goose is going to die. leaving him to a life of broadcasting or a happy retirement if he’s lucky, or automobile sales and fighting way past his prime if he's not so lucky.



                  So Floyd Stick to your guns, Manny Pacquiao is not undefeated
                  and Manny Pacquiao has not done what you have done at the box office.


                  **** Manny Pacquiao only gets 73% of his money, so that let you know what kind of businessman he is.


                  To add to this Post.

                  their are 2 sides to this possible match up.
                  not just 1.
                  Since Manny Pacquiao is now the #1 fighter in the sport. And it is now upon him to to be the face of boxing. like some of you guys state he is.

                  He needs to do whatever he can to make the fight happen.
                  I didnt see Floyd back out of the de la hoya fight when he was the #1 p4p when the sport and de la hoya demanded more money. because the world awaited to see that fight.

                  So it shouldnt be a problem for Pacquiao to do the same thing for Mayweather because that is the fight the world awaits to see.

                  Manny Pacquiao is going to make more money fighting Floyd than he would anybody else, so the money shouldnt be a probelm for Manny.
                  Since he is the so called people champion. He should fight this fight for the people and not for the money..
                  Unless he wants to change his name to

                  Manny "Money" Pacquiao

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                  • When 458 people buy the JMM and Floyd fight, he'll be lucky to get 15-85against Manny.

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                    • Originally posted by Horus View Post
                      To add to this Post.

                      their are 2 sides to this possible match up.
                      not just 1.
                      Since Manny Pacquiao is now the #1 fighter in the sport. And it is now upon him to to be the face of boxing. like some of you guys state he is.

                      He needs to do whatever he can to make the fight happen.
                      I didnt see Floyd back out of the de la hoya fight when he was the #1 p4p when the sport and de la hoya demanded more money. because the world awaited to see that fight.

                      So it shouldnt be a problem for Pacquiao to do the same thing for Mayweather because that is the fight the world awaits to see.

                      Manny Pacquiao is going to make more money fighting Floyd than he would anybody else, so the money shouldnt be a probelm for Manny.
                      Since he is the so called people champion. He should fight this fight for the people and not for the money..
                      Unless he wants to change his name to

                      Manny "Money" Pacquiao
                      Completely different scenarios. When Oscar fought/fights, he is without doubt numbers wise the best PPV draw ever. Floyd had never been involved in a fight that big and would have had no basis to demand anything from De La Hoya. Manny has established himself in the last 2 years and has plenty of position to make demands of Mayweather, especially considering Floyd had to postpone the fight since it was doing so bad.

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