Wlad does not deserve a title shot!

[vB Martin]

As for Wlad winning the 4th round on every scorecard:

"After that, Klitschko then took the fight to Williamson for the rest of the round to such an extent that all three judges scored it a 10-9 round despite the knockdown."

I should have been more clear. One judge had Klit losing the fight.

And I can't believe you're trying to prop up the Moli win. Moli is an Argentine club fighter. I also can't believe you're trying to prop up a B level, past his "prime" fighter like Nicholson. No, I don't consider Ruiz a step up. He's champion because he's a King fighter and he fills seats because people want to see him get killed in the ring. As soon as people wise up to that and stop watching, he will be replaced by a new King fighter.

[Neuraxis]

I should have been more clear. One judge had Klit losing the fight.

And I can't believe you're trying to prop up the Moli win. Moli is an Argentine club fighter. I also can't believe you're trying to prop up a B level, past his "prime" fighter like Nicholson. No, I don't consider Ruiz a step up. He's champion because he's a King fighter and he fills seats because people want to see him get killed in the ring. As soon as people wise up to that and stop watching, he will be replaced by a new King fighter.

Right and that judge should be taken out back and slapped in front of his kids.

[leff]

As i big klit fan i admitt it, wlad doesnt deserve a title shot at the moment.

He needs some good tune upps first.

[Neuraxis]

As i big klit fan i admitt it, wlad doesnt deserve a title shot at the moment.

He needs some good tune upps first.

But then again who during the past year has deserved a title shot. Golota, Oquendo, Meehan, Rahman, and Williams did not deserve title shots. The only two I can see as deserving title shots are Sanders for beating Wlad and maybe McCline for beating Boswell.

[Warrior Spirit]

But then again who during the past year has deserved a title shot. Golota, Oquendo, Meehan, Rahman, and Williams did not deserve title shots. The only two I can see as deserving title shots are Sanders for beating Wlad and maybe McCline for beating Boswell.

Monte Barret.

Wlad is coming off a loss to Brewster and a controversial technical win where he was down!!This does not consititute a title shot.

[leff]

But then again who during the past year has deserved a title shot. Golota, Oquendo, Meehan, Rahman, and Williams did not deserve title shots. The only two I can see as deserving title shots are Sanders for beating Wlad and maybe McCline for beating Boswell.

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[Neuraxis]

Monte Barret.

Wlad is coming off a loss to Brewster and a controversial technical win where he was down!!This does not consititute a title shot.

Perhaps, but we are talking about other "undeserving" title shots during the past year.

[Neuraxis]

Monte Barret.

Wlad is coming off a loss to Brewster and a controversial technical win where he was down!!This does not consititute a title shot.

And BTW what was so controversial about that win. Yes it may not have been as good of a win as Wlad would have liked, but there was nothing controversial about it. Or do you agree with TOS when he said that the 4th round should have been scored 10-7, Wlad should have been penalized or ever DQ'd for holding, and that the cut was caused by a punch?

[Nautilus]

At least not at this point. If you would have asked me what I thought of Wlad before he fought Sanders I would have told you, "He is the number one heavyweight contendor and deserves a crack at Lennox Lewis." After some recent ****ty performnaces I would say that he doesn't even deserved to be ranked in the top 10.

For him to make Byrd come to Germany is insane. Is Wlad living in a dream world? Does he not realize how awful he has looked in his last 2 fights? This guy does not deserve to fight Byrd let alone make the rediculous demand.

This is the problem, he and his fans and backers are living off Wlad's past glories and success. If he gets a resounding and uncontroversial win over a guy like Whitaker,or Sanders in a rematch, or even TOS in a rematch, then maybe I will say that he should get a title shot.

But as of right now, I don't think he does...

1. Rankings are a very subjective matter. However Wlad does remain well ranked by the leading boxing organizations.

2. Is Wlad living in a dream world? No, he is living in the business world. If he can get the Byrd fight, it will be good for him. Why should not he try to get that fight?

3. Who cares what you will say in the case of Wlad getting a resounding and uncontroversial win over a guy like... Whitaker? The question is: if Wlad soundly beats Byrd, what will you say?

[vB Martin]

Right and that judge should be taken out back and slapped in front of his kids.

It depends on what you're looking at. I had the fight 48-47 for Wlad at the time of the stoppage, and gave him the 10-9 in the 4th. I did, however, think that TOS was executing the perfect game plan against Wlad given his stamina problems. He had Wlad chasing him all around that ring, then would punch his way out of trouble when Wlad got too close. I gave the "Ring Generalship" to TOS for every round of that fight. Wlad's punches, though he was landing, were neither clean nor effective punches. A high number of them were fully or partially blocked. The judge, who I thought had it wrong, too, may have been looking at how TOS was making Wlad fight his fight, and the overall defensive skills that TOS was showing.