Wlad does not deserve a title shot!

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  • Neuraxis
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    #51
    Originally posted by beeatch!
    Wladdy may not get his " title shot " anyway, i hear Byrdy wants to make a fight with James Toney, i guess so he can lose his IBF belt to Toney instead and complete JT's collection of IBF championships
    And if Toney can come in below 220 lbs, he should beat Byrd. I'm just not sure if he can get below 220 lbs.

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    • phallus
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      #52
      Byrd's new stand and trade style means he's alot easier to hit, no matter what weight JT comes in at, he'll beat Byrd

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      • Warrior Spirit
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        #53
        Originally posted by pbds
        ...Hey, who is the ***** Hari Krishna in your avatar? Or is it a Moonie? I get those two confused.
        Are you serious, I assume your joking? Its the Pittsburgh Kid, Paul Spadafora.

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        • Stickman
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          #54
          Originally posted by Neuraxis
          And if Toney can come in below 220 lbs, he should beat Byrd. I'm just not sure if he can get below 220 lbs.

          Well, he should be able to get in under 220, but I just don't know what his discipline is like these days. When he was younger it wasn't as important (we all remember those days, I'm sure), but at his age now, he has to watch himself closely, and I just don't know if he has it in himself to do that. But I think you're right, if he can get his weight down where he needs it, he stands an excellant chance against Byrd, and I think I'd actually pick him to win by clean KO if I were forced to make an honest pick.

          I do want to say, though, I am NOT a fan of Toney. I know he's a great fighter, and one of the best inside-men in the business, but his mouth and attitude just put me off the man. I wish he were more easy-going, and more gentlemanlike both inside and out of the ring, but I guess we can't have everything. Some of these guys make me want to call them up, or go see them and talk with them about their behaviour. I know that sounds ******, but when you have kids, this is the sort of thing that goes through your head

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          • Sister Sledge
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            #55
            Wlad hasn't done anything to deserve a title shot. Plus, he hasn't gotten over getting ktfo'd by Brewster. Barrett is much more deserving and would probably be a better fight to watch. At Wlad's current state, I would be surprised if Byrd tried to take it to him to see if he could get a KO out of poor little Wladmir.

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            • Neuraxis
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              #56
              Originally posted by beeatch!
              no matter what weight JT comes in at, he'll beat Byrd
              That's a bit of stretch.

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              • Neuraxis
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                #57
                Originally posted by Stickman
                Well, he should be able to get in under 220, but I just don't know what his discipline is like these days. When he was younger it wasn't as important (we all remember those days, I'm sure), but at his age now, he has to watch himself closely, and I just don't know if he has it in himself to do that. But I think you're right, if he can get his weight down where he needs it, he stands an excellant chance against Byrd, and I think I'd actually pick him to win by clean KO if I were forced to make an honest pick.

                I do want to say, though, I am NOT a fan of Toney. I know he's a great fighter, and one of the best inside-men in the business, but his mouth and attitude just put me off the man. I wish he were more easy-going, and more gentlemanlike both inside and out of the ring, but I guess we can't have everything. Some of these guys make me want to call them up, or go see them and talk with them about their behaviour. I know that sounds ******, but when you have kids, this is the sort of thing that goes through your head
                I would pic Toney by UD if he came in under 220 lbs, but I bet he'll come in more like 235 lbs. I don't think that Toney has the power to KO Byrd.

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                • Stickman
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by beeatch!
                  Byrd's new stand and trade style means he's alot easier to hit, no matter what weight JT comes in at, he'll beat Byrd
                  I don't mean to post on the same quote as someone else, but have you considered Toney's age? He's 36, very prone to injury, has barely had 3 fights in 3 years, one of the last two against a used up Holyfield, the other against a young (23) and "undefeated" Rydell Booker (I don't even recognize most of his opponents) whom he failed to KO, and won a lopsided decision against.

                  Byrd is 34, always in good shape, still very quick (at this point), and probably has another year or 3 before his reflexes become unreliable and he's no longer able to slip most of the big shots.

                  If Toney comes into the ring heavy, he's going to lose a UD to Byrd. If he comes in at the weight he should, and has trained hard for the fight, he stands a good chance of getting a late round KO against Byrd, or failing that, a 3 or 4 point decision....but ONLY if he's in good shape and in fighting trim. If he isn't, this will be the last fight he'll be worth watching in, if it happens at all. At his age, he doesn't have time to take another year off to get his mind and body back into shape and make a comeback, especially at the rate he's fighting.

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                  • .::EnRiQuE::.
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Warrior Spirit
                    True, God the HW division sucks!
                    ur totally right. since lennox left the heavyweight is sooo desperate for a star that vitali is the"#1" heavyweight around right now. vitali sux just like his bro except vitali has a chin. u kno the heavyweight division is weak when sam peter a prospect is being labeled by some as one of the top 10-15 heavyweights! its a shame

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                    • Neuraxis
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by theironone
                      Skeltons not too clever N, infact he's a bit ****, but gives it his all with the very limited skills he's got, but Moli is a ****in joke if skelton doesn't do him within 5 minutes i'll be very disappointed.
                      That's the thing though. If a no confidence fighter, with a glass chin and no stamina who doesn't belong in the top 25 (the majority of the forum's opinion, not mine) can beat Moli that quickly and if Skelton struggles with Moli at all, it doesn't look too good for him.

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