Wlad does not deserve a title shot!

[Slipx]

Hey Sturmrules, don't you think that if the doctor's report had anything meaningful in it Wlad and his team would have presented to the commission or whoever is in charge? Bottomline is, its a dead issue, with Wlad coming outta of it looking like a sore loser and without a title.

Wlad should have took his loss like a true professional and kept his mouth shut.

This is all I will say on the matter.

yo ws.

acting like an immature 16 year old in this thread also I can see.

[Warrior Spirit]

How so? Wlad destroyed Barrett. He KD him 5 times over 7 rounds. Barrett lost to Mesi, SD Guinn (we all saw what Lyakhovich, a complete nobody did to him), and beat a glass chinned Beck. He's also ranked 7th by the IBF and Wlad is 6th, and he seems to not want to have anything to with King, which is why he seems to be gunning for Vitali. Barrett would be an easier fight for Vitali than Williams because Barrett has no power.

This is exactly what I'm taliking about your living off Wlad's past glories. So what about Wlad beating Barret so what,its in the past and its over. In boxing your only as good as your last fight. Barret has beaten 2 undefeated fighters,and almost beat another one. You can't say well because so and so beat this guy that means he deserves a shot. And you can't say well so and so beat this guy that means he would beat this guy. This is boxing and that argument is unfounded and downright ******.

Give Barrett 2 more rounds and he would have beaten Mesi.

That split Decision against Guinn was bull****, that one judge didn't see the fight, plus he was in Guinns hometown.

He showed courage with the cut he recieved from Beck and went on to KO him.

I don't even think I need to talk about how ****ty Wlad has performed in his last few outings.

[Warrior Spirit]

yo ws.

acting like an immature 16 year old in this thread also I can see.

Are you still talking about that ****. Jesus you are a loser, get over it, and get a life.

[Neuraxis]

This is exactly what I'm taliking about your living off Wlad's past glories. So what about Wlad beating Barret so what,its in the past and its over. In boxing your only as good as your last fight. Barret has beaten 2 undefeated fighters,and almost beat another one. You can't say well because so and so beat this guy that means he deserves a shot. And you can't say well so and so beat this guy that means he would beat this guy. This is boxing and that argument is unfounded and downright ******.

Give Barrett 2 more rounds and he would have beaten Mesi.

That split Decision against Guinn was bull****, that one judge didn't see the fight, plus he was in Guinns hometown.

He showed courage with the cut he recieved from Beck and went on to KO him.

I don't even think I need to talk about how ****ty Wlad has performed in his last few outings.

First, how is it courageous when one fighter wins with a bad cut, but its a ****ty performance when another fighter comes back on every judges scorecard to a win a round in which he was KD? Second, how is it a bull**** decision in one fight where a fighter outlands his opponent 207-126, but its a fair decision when another fighter outlands his opponent 88-30? Third, contrary to your belief Wlad is 3-1 in his past 4 fights.

[Warrior Spirit]

First, how is it courageous when one fighter wins with a bad cut, but its a ****ty performance when another fighter comes back on every judges scorecard to a win a round in which he was KD? Second, how is it a bull**** decision in one fight where a fighter outlands his opponent 207-126, but its a fair decision when another fighter outlands his opponent 88-30? Third, contrary to your belief Wlad is 3-1 in his past 4 fights.

You know its funny, I noticed two things about you. Firstly you seem to only post rebuttals to my posts when I'm offline and second that you seem to only post on the Klit brothers, and why DM would beat Roy Jones. Anyways...

Firstly, In the TOS fight, Wlad just looked bad, and he looked bad against a bad opponent. You can offer up all the punchstats you want, but sometimes you just have to watch the fight.Wlad looked tenative and got up from a flash KD, it wasn't something where he was hurt.

Secondly, this might be your weakest argument. How many fights have you seen where the guy who landed less won the fight, you see them all the time. Look at Johnson-Tarver recently, this is a perfect example of that. And did you even see the Guinn-Barrett fight, I'm thinking no, because only a moron would have Guinn winning that fight.

Thirdly Wlad is 3-1 against non-desprict opponents. Barrett has fought better fighters in his last few fights than Wlad has.

The point is that Barrett dererves a title shot more than Wlad. I can even start a thread to find out who everyone thinks is more deserving.

[vB Martin]

Neuraxis, don't forget to mention that the Guinn fight was in Little Rock. The only judge to give the fight to Guinn was also from Little Rock. He blew Guinn away so badly that even the fans there (my brother was amongst them) were booing that particular judge.

[vB Martin]

Third, contrary to your belief Wlad is 3-1 in his past 4 fights.

Let's look at his last 5 fights:

v Corrie Sanders - KTFO in spectacular fashion.
v Fabio Eduardo Moli - Had never fought outside Argentina. Hasn't done it since.
v Danell Nicholson - Had lost every time he ever stepped up. Even against Jeremy Williams. KO'd by 4 of his 5 losses, only going the distance against a young Kirk Johnson.
v Lamon Brewster - KTFO in spectacular fashion.
v Davarryl Williamson - Received a technical decision due to a cut. Many observers, including sportswriters, saw him tiring and thought this was likely the best outcome for him. While he may have gone on to win, we will never know.
His "comeback" round here was NOT courageous, and one judge had him losing. He "came back" in that round because it was a flash KD, and the only thing DW did in that round except make him expend energy.

[Warrior Spirit]

Let's look at his last 5 fights:

v Corrie Sanders - KTFO in spectacular fashion.
v Fabio Eduardo Moli - Had never fought outside Argentina. Hasn't done it since.
v Danell Nicholson - Had lost every time he ever stepped up. Even against Jeremy Williams. KO'd by 4 of his 5 losses, only going the distance against a young Kirk Johnson.
v Lamon Brewster - KTFO in spectacular fashion.
v Davarryl Williamson - Received a technical decision due to a cut. Many observers, including sportswriters, saw him tiring and thought this was likely the best outcome for him. While he may have gone on to win, we will never know.
His "comeback" round here was NOT courageous, and one judge had him losing. He "came back" in that round because it was a flash KD, and the only thing DW did in that round except make him expend energy.

Excellent post, these rabid Wlad fans are just plain blind.

[!!Captain]

Guys, you forget something. Wlad cannot and would not demand **** like Byrd going to Germany. But we have a player, Don King, who is staging this **** and he is a smarty who knows two things:
1. Nobody would watch Wladimir in USA now but a lot of people would turn up for Wlad's title fight in Germany
2. Everybody is dead tired to watch Byrd dance around the ring so it's time for a new champ.

So there are your reasons why Wlad is getting a shot at the title and why it's going to take place in Germany. It has nothing to do with what Wlad or Byrd want or say, it's Don King doing what he does best - filling his pockets with cash.

[Neuraxis]

Let's look at his last 5 fights:

v Corrie Sanders - KTFO in spectacular fashion.
v Fabio Eduardo Moli - Had never fought outside Argentina. Hasn't done it since.
v Danell Nicholson - Had lost every time he ever stepped up. Even against Jeremy Williams. KO'd by 4 of his 5 losses, only going the distance against a young Kirk Johnson.
v Lamon Brewster - KTFO in spectacular fashion.
v Davarryl Williamson - Received a technical decision due to a cut. Many observers, including sportswriters, saw him tiring and thought this was likely the best outcome for him. While he may have gone on to win, we will never know.
His "comeback" round here was NOT courageous, and one judge had him losing. He "came back" in that round because it was a flash KD, and the only thing DW did in that round except make him expend energy.

Moli is fighting Skelton in England later this month. We'll see if he can finish him off faster than Wlad did, ie 1:32.

So I guess Nicholson's win over John Ruiz isn't stepping up. That's fine with me, but just don't let neils know you said that. And you failed to mention that Wlad KO'd him faster than Tua and Golota.

As for Wlad winning the 4th round on every scorecard:

"After that, Klitschko then took the fight to Williamson for the rest of the round to such an extent that all three judges scored it a 10-9 round despite the knockdown."

http://www.ufc*********.com/octoberfist.html

And if Wlad was tiring, I think I am going to need some evidence of that like him losing the 5th round or him collapsing like he did at the end of the 4th round like he did in the Brewster fight, neither of which happened, so I don't know where you are getting the tired theory from.