one major flaw that will hurt pacman with cotto

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  • youreffinkaput
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    #71
    Originally posted by cruzan mario
    Neither can fight backing up,whoever starts backing up,goes night night!!
    can't fight backing up?

    turn on a ****en cotto fight in your life.

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    • deanrw
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      #72
      Originally posted by larrysmith
      i started off just thinking about mannys speed aswell...but cotto isnt slow either and has 3 times the power manny had and a proven chin...the more i think about it as long as cotto isnt drained i think cotto will ko manny via lefthook to the body..
      I highly doubt Manny will risk engaging much early in the fight. He will fight Cotto somewhat like he fought Oscar early and pick his spots. It will not always work as Cotto will be able to reach him at times early. Manny will not even attempt to fight (exchange with) Cotto early. He will try to potshot and maybe cut Cotto, but he will wait for Cotto to tire if he can. If he engaged Cotto early Cotto would tear him up quickly.

      I think Roach will have Manny on his bike first 6 rounds if possible.

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      • ИATAS
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        #73
        Originally posted by larrysmith
        whoever first brought up the pacman hatton fight..the way hatton fought that night he was begging to get brutally ko'd
        I did, but apparently you failed to understand the context. You brought up cotto's chin and how he's 3x more powerful than pacquiao, and I said power is also about timing and accuracy, I mentioned what would happen if cotto got caught by the same punch has hatton did (AND AT THE SAME TIME, acknowledged cotto probably wouldn't be in the same position as hatton though, i.e cotto isn't hatton).

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        • Bogler
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          #74
          Originally posted by rob6465
          Most boxing experts had Marquez winning over Pacquiao:

          - Associated Press:114-113 Marquez
          - Joe Santoliquito:115-112 Marquez
          - Dan Rafael, ESPN.com: 114-113 Marquez
          - Darius Ortiz, ESPN.com:114-113 Marquez
          - Eric Raskin, ESPN.com:114-113 Marquez
          - Brian Kenny, Friday Night Fights:115-112 Marquez
          - Scott Mallon, Ring Magazine / Boxing News / The Fist / Boxing Digest:114-113 Marquez
          - Yahoo Sports:115-112 Marquez
          - Fight News.com:115-112 Marquez
          - Steve Carp, Las Vegas Review Journal: 114-113 Marquez
          - Norm Fraunheim, Arizona Republic:114-113 Marquez
          - Rich Marrotta, Top Rank TV:114-113 Marquez
          - Kieran Mulvaney, Reuters:114-113 Marquez
          - DogHouseBoxing:114-113 Marquez
          - Brett Conway, MaxBoxing.com:114-113 Marquez
          - Rick Reeno, BoxingScene.com:114-113 Marquez
          - Gary Randall, MaxBoxing.com:114-113 Marquez
          - Bart Barry, 15Rounds.com:115-113 Marquez
          - Bruce McTavish, International Judge:115-112 Marquez
          - Francis Ochoa, Philippine Daily Inquirer:114-113 Marquez
          - Scott Christ, BadLeftHook.com:114-113 Marquez
          - William Detloff, The Ring Magazine:115-113 Marquez
          - Ron Borges, TheSweetScience.com:114-113 Marquez
          - Bert Sugar:Marquez
          - Max Kellerman & Bob Papa:Marquez in both fights
          - Nonito Donaire:114-113 Marquez
          - Filipino Sports Analysts Ronnie Nathanielsz, Recah Trinidad and Ed Picson all picked Marquez.
          - Graham Houston, FightWriter.com also picked Marquez

          * Pacquiao wins the vacant Ring Magazine jr. lightweight world title. Ring Magazine awarded the belt to Pacquiao but did not believe he won the fight
          dude, that is a cherrypicked list made by a jmm whining fan. any pacfan could make a list showing only the experts who got pac winning, but they don't feel the need to unlike crybaby jmm.

          here is the actual press row scoring...

          Doug Fischer of maxboxing.com - 114-114 Draw
          http://www.maxboxing.com/Fischer/Fischer031708.asp

          Harold Lederman of HBO (not his article but mentioned in it) - 115-112 for Pacquiao
          http://www.thesweetscience.com/boxin...beats-marquez/

          Dan Rafael of espn.com – 114-113 for Marquez


          Steve Kim of maxboxing.com – 115-112 for Pacquiao
          http://www.maxboxing.com/Kim/Kim031708.asp

          The Arizona Republic – 114-113 for Marquez


          Jeff Haney of Las Vegas Sun - 114-113 for Pacquiao
          http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2008...ng-title-bout/

          Ricardo Lois of ******************.com – 115-112 for Marquez
          http://www.******************.com/articles.php?id=4125

          Michael Marley of ******************.com – 114-113 for Pacquiao
          http://www.******************.com/articles.php?id=4132

          SC of badlefthook.com – 114-113 for Marquez


          Ace Freeman of fightfan.com – 115-112 for Pacquiao


          Victor Perea of *********.com - 115-113 for Marquez
          http://www.*********extra.com/cc/FIG...ao-marquez.htm

          ‘Undisputed’ of doghouseboxing.com – 115-114 for Pacquiao


          Bart Barry of 15rounds.com – 115-113 for Marquez
          http://15rounds.com/Columns/bbarry/aggressor-031708.php

          Ben Thompson of fighthype.com – 114-113 for Pacquiao


          Tim Starks of mvn - 114-113 for Marquez


          http://www.maxboxing.com/Fischer/Fischer031708.asp
          Michael Katz of BoxingScene scored the bout 115-112 for Pacquiao
          Lee Groves, live round-by-round guy of MaxBoxing, had it 114-113 for Pacquiao

          Rick Reeno, live round-by-round guy of BoxingScene, 114-113 for Marquez
          Gary Randall scored the bout 114-113 for Marquez

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          • Bushbaby
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            #75
            Originally posted by youreffinkaput
            can't fight backing up?

            turn on a ****en cotto fight in your life.
            Actually,I've seen most of his fights and I'm a fan of both,for the most part please name me fights in which Cotto was on his pedal,excluding the fights with Clottey,Mosley and Margarito!!I do believe Cotto is a pressure fighter and u don't apply pressure backing up kid!!

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            • Chuckguy
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              #76
              So how do you guys feel about Manny catching Cotto where he is most vulnerable?
              Uppercut up the middle?

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              • rob6465
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                #77
                Originally posted by Bogler
                dude, that is a cherrypicked list made by a jmm whining fan. any pacfan could make a list showing only the experts who got pac winning, but they don't feel the need to unlike crybaby jmm.

                here is the actual press row scoring...

                Doug Fischer of maxboxing.com - 114-114 Draw
                http://www.maxboxing.com/Fischer/Fischer031708.asp

                Harold Lederman of HBO (not his article but mentioned in it) - 115-112 for Pacquiao
                http://www.thesweetscience.com/boxin...beats-marquez/

                Dan Rafael of espn.com – 114-113 for Marquez


                Steve Kim of maxboxing.com – 115-112 for Pacquiao
                http://www.maxboxing.com/Kim/Kim031708.asp

                The Arizona Republic – 114-113 for Marquez


                Jeff Haney of Las Vegas Sun - 114-113 for Pacquiao
                http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2008...ng-title-bout/

                Ricardo Lois of ******************.com – 115-112 for Marquez
                http://www.******************.com/articles.php?id=4125

                Michael Marley of ******************.com – 114-113 for Pacquiao
                http://www.******************.com/articles.php?id=4132

                SC of badlefthook.com – 114-113 for Marquez


                Ace Freeman of fightfan.com – 115-112 for Pacquiao


                Victor Perea of *********.com - 115-113 for Marquez
                http://www.*********extra.com/cc/FIG...ao-marquez.htm

                ‘Undisputed’ of doghouseboxing.com – 115-114 for Pacquiao


                Bart Barry of 15rounds.com – 115-113 for Marquez
                http://15rounds.com/Columns/bbarry/aggressor-031708.php

                Ben Thompson of fighthype.com – 114-113 for Pacquiao


                Tim Starks of mvn - 114-113 for Marquez


                http://www.maxboxing.com/Fischer/Fischer031708.asp
                Michael Katz of BoxingScene scored the bout 115-112 for Pacquiao
                Lee Groves, live round-by-round guy of MaxBoxing, had it 114-113 for Pacquiao

                Rick Reeno, live round-by-round guy of BoxingScene, 114-113 for Marquez
                Gary Randall scored the bout 114-113 for Marquez
                I stand corrected. Thank you for the correct scorecards. I apologize for posting the original one. tHANKS GUY.

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                • LA BAD BOY
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                  #78
                  Who cares what boxing experts says about PACMAN MARQUEZ fight.

                  PACMAN won! C est la vie!

                  All boxing experts saw that CASTILLO beat MAYWEATHER and clown
                  still got 0 on his record!

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                  • rob6465
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by Chuckguy
                    So how do you guys feel about Manny catching Cotto where he is most vulnerable?
                    Uppercut up the middle?
                    I can see it but cotto been hit with wayyyyyy more powerful uppercuts and still wins fight. How do you guys feel about cotto catching pacman with punch to the body, then to the head? I like that one better....lol

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                    • rob6465
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by LA BAD BOY
                      Who cares what boxing experts says about PACMAN MARQUEZ fight.

                      PACMAN won! C est la vie!

                      All boxing experts saw that CASTILLO beat MAYWEATHER and clown
                      still got 0 on his record!
                      You are right,many experts wrote that clottey beat cotto...but cotto has the W for that one....i 'm with you....lol

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