Why does a Boxer have to go out on his shield?

[tesla_power]

All this victor ortiz quitting **** has shown me one important thing about boxing fans. They are the dumbest and most downright ignorent fans on the planet. Seriously this is a sport where if you combined all the people that have died on the playing fields of Car Racing, Football, Baseball, basketball, and Hockey combined it still wouldn't equal half of all the boxers that are dead. So again what is the stigma about a boxer quitting? Emmit Smith dislocates a shoulder and continues playing a game and he's a legend. If a boxer continues to box even when badly injured its buissness as usual. Anyone else see the hypocrisy in that?

Seriously I wish boxing was a really small sport that only a select few people liked because it seems to me that nowadays nobody apriciates the skill and just wants to see two people bash each others brains in. Go to a bar if you wana see two drunk idiots beat each other up. I watch boxing because it's the "sweet science" not because it's a human **** fight.

I do agree with you. But looking back at the fight and post-fight interview, he just gave up. I don't really knock him off because it's his life, his choice. But in my opinion, he could have continued. He just could not figure out his opponent, gave up, rationalize, and hopefully fight more intelligently next time. But I do admit I was slightly disappointed with him.

[pistol whip]

You know wtf you are getting into stop making excuses for these people.victor took all the glory when **** went well but as soon as it went wrong he turned his back on all his fans..he's a quitter

His fans? *** the fans man he gots people at home that mean more than his ***ing fans. Jesus why is it that fanatical boxing idiots always make the conversation about them. who gives a *** about you or his fans it's the sweet science and the boxers that matter not your precious ***ing money. You pay 11 dollars for a subscription to HBO every month and he's supposed to kill himself for you. Holy ***!!!

[pistol whip]

I do agree with you. But looking back at the fight and post-fight interview, he just gave up. I don't really knock him off because it's his life, his choice. But in my opinion, he could have continued. He just could not figure out his opponent, gave up, rationalize, and hopefully fight more intelligently next time. But I do admit I was slightly disappointed with him.

If you are disapointed that he lost then hey thats rational but just don't be like these other idiots who take it personal when their guy quits. It's not like they were ever really fight for their fans in the first place no matter how many times the say it.

[flem1]

All this victor ortiz quitting **** has shown me one important thing about boxing fans. They are the dumbest and most downright ignorent fans on the planet. Seriously this is a sport where if you combined all the people that have died on the playing fields of Car Racing, Football, Baseball, basketball, and Hockey combined it still wouldn't equal half of all the boxers that are dead. So again what is the stigma about a boxer quitting? Emmit Smith dislocates a shoulder and continues playing a game and he's a legend. If a boxer continues to box even when badly injured its buissness as usual. Anyone else see the hypocrisy in that?

Seriously I wish boxing was a really small sport that only a select few people liked because it seems to me that nowadays nobody apriciates the skill and just wants to see two people bash each others brains in. Go to a bar if you wana see two drunk idiots beat each other up. I watch boxing because it's the "sweet science" not because it's a human **** fight.

I bolded the part where it caught my attention. Fans will give huge props to any boxer who has the heart to continue even when they are facing a huge adversity. Yeah it's business as usual but the boxer will receive great praise and get so much respect in return.

The beef with Victor Oritz is that he is a hyped up fighter who is seen as a future contender. He failed many when he refused to continue and gave up rather than getting back in the fight. He could have thought of ways to adjust to Maidana's style and weather the storm like many boxers have done but he chose the quick way out.

[pistol whip]

Nothin wrong wit quittin when a fight ain't winnable. But Ortiz' fight was still winnable. Had he been sonned all the way thru nobody would blame him. But he had hurt and dropped his man a few times and coulda fought back more if he wanted to. That's why he got **** on. And he didn't do himself any favors wit that post fight interview either. What cats that were cool wit his decision probably turned against him when he said the **** he said. Nobody wants to see these guys maim each other, but they do want their $'s worth.

The fight was free on HBO what exactly does 11$ a month for an HBO subscription entitle you to? You get to watch the fight while other people don't thats all your money entitles you to. Even if it was a 50$ PPV that doesn't mean a guy should kill himself for you either.

Oh lets not forget that the promoters(the only slugs on the planet that are even more disgusting than boxing fans) are the ones making the lions share of you precious dinero.

[flem1]

Sensitive? How does being logical and reasonable make me sensative?


Just because i'm not a drooling fanatic doesn't make me sensative.

Who says you are logical and reasonable?

You're neither..

[The_Demon]

Who says you are logical and reasonable?

You're neither..

he doesnt seem to understand that
he wont listen to other people

[Dynamite Kid]

Money? 90% of all the boxers in the world don't make anywhwhere near enough money to live even a middleclass life.

But once again this is a prime example of why 90% of boxing fans should be executed because you somehow equate money as a justifiable reason why a boxers should just go ahead and destroy their brains.

All that glory and tenacity Joe Frasier showed in his career and for what. So he could be broke and robbed of enjoring his golden years. Pfft *** that!!

At the highest level of the Sport they do and that is where the fans spend their money on PPV.
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The brutality is what makes it so appealing to majority fans and the more brutal the better from a fans perspective.

Fans demand because they are buying a product and the fighters accept that, also they must make those fans WANT to buy PPV to see them again, it works both ways.

Stop with the BS, its their choice to take up the Sport, its no secret that you can get killed in this Sport.

[flem1]

he doesnt seem to understand that
he wont listen to other people

Yeah, I just can't figure out where he's getting at..

[pistol whip]

I bolded the part where it caught my attention. Fans will give huge props to any boxer who has the heart to continue even when they are facing a huge adversity. Yeah it's business as usual but the boxer will receive great praise and get so much respect in return.

The beef with Victor Oritz is that he is a hyped up fighter who is seen as a future contender. He failed many when he refused to continue and gave up rather than getting back in the fight. He could have thought of ways to adjust to Maidana's style and weather the storm like many boxers have done but he chose the quick way out.

Isreal Vazques quit against Rafael Marquez and what happened? The media said he was finished, idiot max Kellerman called him a quitter, and yet the guy right now is a top 10 PFP fighter and the ring champion in his division plus he beat Marquez twice in two rematches. So much for what fans and the media knows about a boxers heart.

Vasquez wouldn't have been the first boxer to fight with a broken nose yet what did his decision to quit do for his career? It probably extended it and saved him a few braincells.