Manny Pacquiao: "The Miguel Cotto Fight is 80% Done"

[GRUSTLER]

It's hard for dimwitted fanatics to understand the truth. At least, we're here to straigthen them up and explain to them the truth.

For real man! They still haven't answered my previous post so
going to ask the question again:

Do the Cotto fans think beating Jennings for the VACANT WBO that
Paul williams had to leave because he couldn't get a fight is more
respectable than Floyd fighting Baldomir and beating him for the
Lineal title and claim as #1 of the WW division?

[TheMelvern]

YES! I cant wait until I hear an official announcement that its done. A Cotto victory would make my year.

[Gabilan]

Rocky Marciano! retired UNDEFEATED and has 50 wins under his belt.
Also, Mayweather is back if your memory don't serve you well.

Name MORE than ONE all-time-great..repeat: MORE than ONE all-time-great. Read before you reply bro. Jeez. Rocky and ...... (im waiting?)

I respect your posts Grustler, don't get mixed up with trolls like Braggart. You always back up your arguments with facts, so I respect them even when I ultimately disagree with them. But you know this guy just cuts and pastes.

[letsgobrady]

How can you bring up Margarito when Cotto didn't even win that fight? And Clottey shouldn't have had that belt in the first place because the Margarito-Cotto fight should have been a unfication match. But like I said, Cotto didn't win that fight. Mayweather ducks opponents, and I don't deny that. But Cotto did let a Paul Williams fight fall through his finger tips when you know damn well that Paul deserved it. The Cotto fans on here do use double standards.

i don't ever recall cotto ever asking for a fight making a fight or calling a fighter out, all his fights are made by arum, so if cotto paul williams didn't happen it was because of arum not cotto

[letsgobrady]

That's my gripe on here sometimes is that certain types catch
amnesia or forget facts when convenient to back up their claims
then begin to make things up and paint a different picture. Floyd
was destroying Zab to the point Zab got desperate and hit Floyd
low and in the back of the head.......that's Zab being desperate
not dominant. Corley got spanked but Corley had Cotto on Spaghetti
legs and Larry Merchant said Cotto got a home town stoppage.
Cotto has been saved or protected in a lot of fights by the referees
and judges. Floyd had the fight of his life and was injured. He could
have took that win but he decided to man up and give him an
immediate rematch, how could people hate on that?

corley only won that 1 round where he had cotto hurt so it's not like it was a close fight and even if it was an early stoppage the fight was not going to get any better for corley because if you remember in 5 rounds corley was on the floor 3 or 4 times

[Gabilan]

And to answer your question GRUSTLER:

Do the Cotto fans think beating Jennings for the VACANT WBO that
Paul williams had to leave because he couldn't get a fight is more
respectable than Floyd fighting Baldomir and beating him for the
Lineal title and claim as #1 of the WW division?

No. Its basically the same thing, if anything beating Baldomir was more "impressive," though I am loathe to use that adjective in referring to Baldomir. Personally, I dont even really care all that much for belts. Its every other opponent that matters!

If one compares post-135 lb Mayweather's opponents to Cotto's opponents at 140 and 147 lb objectively you have to give a huuuuge edge to Cotto. Mayweather was the man at 135 but hasnt fought the top-tier since then. Shot DLH, Judah, and Hatton at 147 (btw Pac was the FIRST to beat Hatton at 140 which is as much more impressive seeing as Hatton was ineffective at 147) are probably his best victories. Sorry, but I am not all that impressed.

[GRUSTLER]

Name MORE than ONE all-time-great..repeat: MORE than ONE all-time-great. Read before you reply bro. Jeez. Rocky and ...... (im waiting?)

I respect your posts Grustler, don't get mixed up with trolls like Braggart. You always back up your arguments with facts, so I respect them even when I ultimately disagree with them. But you know this guy just cuts and pastes.

Why does it have to be more than one? There is one. I don't know
if he cuts and paste or not but he doesn't come on and disrespect
calling names and talking **** like a lot of others on here and that
is what ultimately I'm good with. I'd rather deal with a guy that
cuts and pasted then a person that disrespects any day. Not saying
you do because you haven't but you know what I mean.

[Gabilan]

Why does it have to be more than one? There is one. I don't know
if he cuts and paste or not but he doesn't come on and disrespect
calling names and talking **** like a lot of others on here and that
is what ultimately I'm good with. I'd rather deal with a guy that
cuts and pasted then a person that disrespects any day. Not saying
you do because you haven't but you know what I mean.

Understood. But you just jumped into an argument without really knowing what we were talking about. Thats all. My point was that undefeated records do not equal being an ATG. ATGs eventually lose because they challenge themselves and, for one reason or other, eventually lose. That is something I havent seen from Mayweather since his jump to 140lbs. Hopefully he will remedy that over the next couple of years.

[GRUSTLER]

And to answer your question GRUSTLER:

Do the Cotto fans think beating Jennings for the VACANT WBO that
Paul williams had to leave because he couldn't get a fight is more
respectable than Floyd fighting Baldomir and beating him for the
Lineal title and claim as #1 of the WW division?

No. Its basically the same thing, if anything beating Baldomir was more "impressive," though I am loathe to use that adjective in referring to Baldomir. Personally, I dont even really care all that much for belts. Its every other opponent that matters!

If one compares post-135 lb Mayweather's opponents to Cotto's opponents at 140 and 147 lb objectively you have to give a huuuuge edge to Cotto. Mayweather was the man at 135 but hasnt fought the top-tier since then. Shot DLH, Judah, and Hatton at 147 (btw Pac was the FIRST to beat Hatton at 140 which is as much more impressive seeing as Hatton was ineffective at 147) are probably his best victories. Sorry, but I am not all that impressed.

OK, so your saying that Beating Baldomir is the same as beating
Michael Jennings for a Vacant strap that another fighter left? Come
on man. Baldomir beat Zab fair and square who was the UNDISPUTED
WW CHAMPION, Jennings didn't beat anybody and Cotto didn't beat
Williams, they fought for a man's title that left it because he couldn't
get a fight and he called out Cotto after Quintana. Floyd beat Baldomir
who was the recognize champ at WW. Regardless if we think he was
as good as Cotto or not, fact is, he still earned it and you shouldn't
try to take a man's achievements away since Cotto hasn't done what
Baldomir has done in his career YET. At 140, Cotto fought Corley
after Floyd? How can he be more impressive at 140 then Floyd
was. We know Cotto is fighting more at 147 because his career
only spans 2 divisions, Floyd exceeds him and was the champ
UNDEFEATED for 10 YEARS! How can you say, Pac win was more
impressive than Floyd's when Floyd fought an UNDEFEATED Hatton
coming off of a devastating victory over Castillo, the man that
arguably beat Floyd the 1st time? Pacquiao victory was no doubt
impressive, but if you look at it overall Floyd KO'd Hatton first
end of story.

[AntonTheMeh]

i want to know what cotto fans brag about the jennings fight.who exactly.you want to bring williams into the equation, ok.

1.none of you where apart of the negotiations his people had with arum for a pav fight.

2. the guy is all over the place.to prove how ducked he's been, he's fighting cans in divisions above, because quote, "fighters are so ****ing terrified of the guy" (this guy aint tyson, hearns, or hagler).

HE'S AFTER THE BIG FIGHTS LIKE THE REST OF THEM.

cotto is supposed to take his challenge over a mega fight with pacquiao? are you ****ing serious?


regarding the jennings type fights; what fan of any fighter wants to see the guy fighting subpar comp? clearly cotto's fans right?i mean, floyd is subpar, correct?

the jennings and gomez fights where **** fights.we know that.i never liked the gomez fight.but i understood why he fought jennings.he' had just gotten plastered by a cheater in his previous fight.

3.i just don't understand what any of this bitching about cotto has to do with this fight.what exactly does it have to do with the pacquiao fight? you twats are reaching hard.either you think one will win, or you think the other will.
SMH.

its like trying to explain **** to children.i wouldn't be surprised if some of you don't even know how to wipe your asses right.your childish hang ups are pathetic, when you actually call yourself a fight fan.