Is A Heavyweight Revival Upon Us? Does Anyone Care?

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  • The Hammer
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    #21
    Originally posted by joe strong
    to put things in pespective wladimir put 60000 people in the seats in Germany & was paid £5 million(7.5million) & owns 2 world titles...mike Tyson got paid 5 million to embarrass himself vs kevin mcbride.how many people there? That one guy said no one was there.sorry buddy the klits don't draw outside Germany.if Tyson or Holyfield would have got 30million in a 10000 seat stadium.
    Wlad made about $14,000,000 US for his last fight. It was telecast in about 60 countries around the world: Hungary, Russia, Ukraine, etc.

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    • Roger Mellie
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      #22
      This division isnt going to get much better until the Klits retire,which hopefully will be fairly soon as they are both in the autumn of their careers,Vitali(age) and Wlad(chin).I am not really sure about who is going to step up in the future or if there is another tyson or Holyfield around the corner, but I just hope its not another robotic dullard.

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      • gingeralbino
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        #23
        Originally posted by mr.crust
        This division isnt going to get much better until the Klits retire,which hopefully will be fairly soon as they are both in the autumn of their careers,Vitali(age) and Wlad(chin).I am not really sure about who is going to step up in the future or if there is another tyson or Holyfield around the corner, but I just hope its not another robotic dullard.
        If the Klits retire the division will be more competitive at the top with quite a few fighters being able to beat each other.
        But the standard will go down. That cant be a good thing. Its up to the current contenders to get to the level the klits are fighting at, not wait until they are retired and waiting for the standard to drop so they can be the best.

        IMO neither Haye or chambers will beat either bro. Britain and the USA want another heavyweight champ and they are being hyped as they have the best chance. But its not a great one. Chambers is doing what he can fighting top opposition and is improving so i cant fault him at all on effert. He looked in shape in his last fight too.
        Haye needs to fight some HW contenders to keep himself sharp and adjust to the HW division. Sitting around and waiting is harming him. I like Haye and want him to beat either/both Klit brothers but i very much doubt he can.

        And dont get me started on the nipple.

        Cant comment on Pov - seen very little of him

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        • Roger Mellie
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          #24
          Originally posted by gingeralbino
          If the Klits retire the division will be more competitive at the top with quite a few fighters being able to beat each other.
          But the standard will go down. That cant be a good thing. Its up to the current contenders to get to the level the klits are fighting at, not wait until they are retired and waiting for the standard to drop so they can be the best.

          IMO neither Haye or chambers will beat either bro. Britain and the USA want another heavyweight champ and they are being hyped as they have the best chance. But its not a great one. Chambers is doing what he can fighting top opposition and is improving so i cant fault him at all on effert. He looked in shape in his last fight too.
          Haye needs to fight some HW contenders to keep himself sharp and adjust to the HW division. Sitting around and waiting is harming him. I like Haye and want him to beat either/both Klit brothers but i very much doubt he can.

          And dont get me started on the nipple.

          Cant comment on Pov - seen very little of him
          I have Haye in with a good chance against Wlad,but Vitali would murder him.

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          • gingeralbino
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            #25
            Originally posted by mr.crust
            I have Haye in with a good chance against Wlad,but Vitali would murder him.
            as everyone has against Wlad - he has a punchers chance. Unlike most of Wlads opponents he also has the speed and the balls to go for the shot which improves his chances slightly. If they fought 10 times im sure Haye would win at least once!!!
            I just cant see him getting past that pawing jab of Wlads with out getting KOd

            I'd happily be wrong on this though!!!!!!

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            • taker1570
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              #26
              Hopefully David Haye will takeover soon, as well as Eddie Chambers. That'd be refreshing.

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              • joe strong
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                #27
                Originally posted by ~Tunney
                Wlad made about $14,000,000 US for his last fight. It was telecast in about 60 countries around the world: Hungary, Russia, Ukraine, etc.
                haye was to be paid £3 million(4.5 millionus) & was going to retire in Cyprus.that's proof he didn't fake an injury.even if he won there was no gaurentee he was fighting again even with the rematch clause.he won't make as much vs vitali.that's karma getting him back for the slanders vs the klits,mistreating of his old friend audley Harrison.now he may have to fight longer.what did chagaev make? I'm assuming not as much.that 14million must have been gate $ as well...nice payday for wlad.haye may never make that $ again...looks good on him.

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                • joe strong
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by taker1570
                  Hopefully David Haye will takeover soon, as well as Eddie Chambers. That'd be refreshing.
                  just read if haye was going to retire after his wlad fight because he was getting £3 million(4.5 us)I'm sure if he won he would have taken the rematches but if he lost he was retiring in cyprus.now because of injury we may now see a better,more motivated haye because by what I read if a guy planned his retirement before a fight I think he wouldn't have tried as hard.this is a blessing he got hurt.now we will see a desperate haye which makes him very dangerous.we may get to see a better haye than anyone could imagine.let's hope so we can get more great fights.he could bring the best out of the klits.

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                  • ottoevans
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                    #29
                    The division is bad for us Americans, people around the world seem to like it.

                    For the US to start careing we need a Tim Tebox to emerge into the scene. White, Good Loocking, Humble but good speaker

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                    • joe strong
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                      #30
                      Hayes in shape & so is chambers from his last fight(208),if arreola actually is doing what his camp says he is(I believe it when I see him at 240)he may be ready to step up as well.he can take a punch & doesn't mind getting hit.the better condition he's in the longer he will last.haven't seen him fight past 4 rounds yet.I've seen his last 3 fights & I've been impressed with his arsenal,chin,& most of all his agressiveness.he's overweight & has no defence but as I said earlier he don't mind getting hit & he will get hit by the klits.travis walker made him take a knee but people must realize he has great power in both hands & is one of the hardest hitting heavyweights.he reminds me of bonecrusher smith.very bearable,no defence,marginal skill but you drop your hands he could knock you out.

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