Wlad/Chambers = Wlad/Byrd

[ROSS CALIFORNIA]

Hmmmm, why do I get the idea all Klitschko fans are punk ass white boys with big mouths? lol I'm white and I choose fighters on their talent and abilities. Wlad has been semi successful in a weak division, how anyone would pick him out of the bunch to idolize is beyond me. Go to the UFC, there are a lot of very good white fighters there that are worth being proud of.

[Nautilus]

... the only reason he lost the Povetkin fight, was because he stopped throwing punches ...

LOL.... do you think that the other guy in the ring might have something to do with that?

[#1Assassin]

Yep, Chambers is very elusive, difficult to put leather on clean, no matter who he's standing in front of. About the only thing you can catch him with easy is a jab, which is why he'll get beaten ****** by either Klitschko. That said, these two brothers are among the few boxers in the business who know the importance of a good jab that's used as often as possible, and employ that knowledge in every fight. If either brother were somehow limited to maybe a dozen jabs per round, they'd be taken apart by maybe half of their opponents. Many may consider them "boring" or "chicken****" for using a jab the way they do, but any trainer who's worth a **** does his best to get his fighters to do precisely what these two boys do....jab the ****ing dog**** out of anyone in front of them, and use their power hand only when it's a sure thing. Historically, and apart from one-punch KO's and other anomalies, whatever fighter throws the best jab and throws it the most often, will win the fight.

except even when it is a sure thing wlad keeps holding back on the power for another 5 rounds. other than that i agree with your post. wlad isnt boring for using his jab, its cuz he does nothing but use his jab. most fighters use their jab to find the distance, keep their oponent of them, score points and set up big punches behind it. wlad doesnt set up big punches behind it, he just keeps jabbing. and even after his oponent has given up trying to win, wlad still wont step on the gas. nothing wrong with being safety first, but wlad has taken it to a whole other level. taken it too far.

[Stickman]

except even when it is a sure thing wlad keeps holding back on the power for another 5 rounds. other than that i agree with your post. wlad isnt boring for using his jab, its cuz he does nothing but use his jab. most fighters use their jab to find the distance, keep their oponent of them, score points and set up big punches behind it. wlad doesnt set up big punches behind it, he just keeps jabbing. and even after his oponent has given up trying to win, wlad still wont step on the gas. nothing wrong with being safety first, but wlad has taken it to a whole other level. taken it too far.

I agree, he should unload with his right from the first round, put it into every hole he can make for it. There's no sense in letting a guy hang around for 7 or 8 rounds because you want to be sure he's beaten to a pulp and his heart and spirit are completely broken before you stop him. But love it or hate it, he's one effective muther****er in the ring.

[The Hammer]

Eddie Chambers is a very good style matchup for Wlad, in fact he will be an easier, more risk-free fight for Wlad than Haye or Povetkin. Haye is a hard hitter and would have a slim punchers' chance against Wlad, but Chambers doesn't hit hard enough to stop him (Wlad doesn't have a great chin, but he doesn't have a glass chin either).

Chris Byrd was indeed a defensive master. He made Vitali miss a lot, more than anyone else ever had. Even though Vitali was well ahead on the scorecards, he thought it was close and he would lose on points if he continued for the last three rounds, because he couldn't throw his left jab. Byrd gave some brilliant defensive performances against Holyfield and Tua.

But Wladimir has excellent, underrated handspeed and managed to connect with Byrd more regularly than Vitali, knocking him down twice in their first fight and winning every round for a lopsided decision win. The second fight with Byrd was even easier for Wlad.

Chambers has some excellent boxing skills, but he's not quite the defensive master prime Byrd was. He'll be a fairly easy, risk-free fight for Wlad. Wlad has stopped about 15 opponents who were never stopped before (Chagaev, Thompson, Brock, Brewster, Castillo, Shufford, Barrett, Bostice, Shultz, etc.) and so Eddie will be another added to this list.

[juggernautburn]

Eddie Chambers is a very good style matchup for Wlad, in fact he will be an easier, more risk-free fight for Wlad than Haye or Povetkin. Haye is a hard hitter and would have a slim punchers' chance against Wlad, but Chambers doesn't hit hard enough to stop him (Wlad doesn't have a great chin, but he doesn't have a glass chin either).

Chris Byrd was indeed a defensive master. He made Vitali miss a lot, more than anyone else ever had. Even though Vitali was well ahead on the scorecards, he thought it was close and he would lose on points if he continued for the last three rounds, because he couldn't throw his left jab. Byrd gave some brilliant defensive performances against Holyfield and Tua.

But Wladimir has excellent, underrated handspeed and managed to connect with Byrd more regularly than Vitali, knocking him down twice in their first fight and winning every round for a lopsided decision win. The second fight with Byrd was even easier for Wlad.

Chambers has some excellent boxing skills, but he's not quite the defensive master prime Byrd was. He'll be a fairly easy, risk-free fight for Wlad. Wlad has stopped about 15 opponents who were never stopped before (Chagaev, Thompson, Brock, Brewster, Castillo, Shufford, Barrett, Bostice, Shultz, etc.) and so Eddie will be another added to this list.

we'll have to wait and see, everyone can speculate on how a fight pans out, but you don't really know. a lot of people on here were big on dimi and we see what happened there. he became a "victim." just choosing the choice of word some of you guys like to use when describing someone who loses. it's almost like some of you guys are living vicariously through klitschko, which is odd.

[STILL_DETOX]

please die

[The Hammer]

a lot of people on here were big on dimi and we see what happened there. he became a "victim." just choosing the choice of word some of you guys like to use when describing someone who loses. it's almost like some of you guys are living vicariously through klitschko, which is odd.

I was never a fan or "big" on Dimitrenko, although I thought he might have some potential (I still do). I am a fan of both Povetkin and Boytsov.

I felt Chambers might defeat Dimitrenko when I saw he was in excellent shape. Before that I was predicting a late TKO or decision for Dimitrenko in a very competitive fight.

Read my opening post in this thread before the fight:

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=285860

Another post I made on Saturday morning on page two of that thread, before the fight:

Dimitrenko is bigger even than Wladimir, but he's no Klitschko.

- he doesn't have anything near Wlad's power
- he doesn't deal well with body punches, while body punches never seem to bother Wlad, just head shots
- he doesn't have Wlad's excellent technical skills

[Silver Shamrock]

we'll have to wait and see, everyone can speculate on how a fight pans out, but you don't really know. a lot of people on here were big on dimi and we see what happened there. he became a "victim." just choosing the choice of word some of you guys like to use when describing someone who loses. it's almost like some of you guys are living vicariously through klitschko, which is odd.

Chambers might win against Wlad but I highly doubt it. Of course they'll have to actually fight to see what happens.

Chambers had better wins than Dimi so it didn't surprise me that he won.

[Tmann400]

i think people need to stop comparing byrd and chambers..the onl similarity is that they are both small heavyweights and are fast..that is it. they have completely different types of styles and from what ive seen chambers hits a good deal harder than byrd did and chambers also is a better agressive fighter than byrd ever was..so what im saying is NO it will not be an easier fight for wlad than byrd because your comparing two completely different fighters..yea byrd was really elusive but his actual guard was not as sturdy and tight as chambers is..yea dimitrenko may not have much power but there was alot of weight coming behind his punches and chambers managed to take most of them on his gloves and when a shot did land on chambers he stood his ground..people saying wladimir is just going to blow chambers out of the ring are to be quite frank not the sharpest tools in the shed..chambers is a much better fighter than chagaev and he doesnt just stand in front of you like chagaev did against wladimir..i see a close decison win for wladimir