Who is The Right Choice For Wladimir Klitschko?

[krazyn8tive]

toney tubbs deserves a shot

[joe strong]

toney tubbs deserves a shot

could you imagine the buffet that you would need to satisfy my bucket of chicken eating hero toney & tubbs' appetites? I share a bucket with James anytime.

[boxaholic]

Only fights that matter for the K bros are Haye and Val. Maybe Arreola, cuz he's a fan friendly fighter. If Wlad ain't fightin one of these guys, do the Povetkin mando and decide who's next after that.

I couldn't have said it better myself. After the Klitschko brothers beat thes 4 boxers there legacy will be set in stone. Maybe that will entice Lennox Lewis to try to come back for crazy cash

[Muttley85]

Wlad doesnt have a choice, has to fight Povetkin next.

[Welter_Skelter]

JOURNEY MEN??? Wlad has fought his mandatory and the best guy available .. American journalists .. Even Troy whom I respect.. just cant hide their disdain and bias when it comes to Wladimir Klitschko..

I for one am fed up.. I have decided to ban American journalists from my life when it comes to the heavyweights.. and good fucking riddance...

What a bunch of sore losing sucks...

[HeartAttack]

JOURNEY MEN??? Wlad has fought his mandatory and the best guy available .. American journalists .. Even Troy whom I respect.. just cant hide their disdain and bias when it comes to Wladimir Klitschko..

I for one am fed up.. I have decided to ban American journalists from my life when it comes to the heavyweights.. and good fucking riddance...

What a bunch of sore losing sucks...

Welter you obviously got the wrong message out of this. The only person who was called a journeyman was Monte Barrett. Earnie Shavers was a solid contender. The reason why Shavers was used as a reference was because of the lack of opposition for Wladimir, not his skills. Read it again before you fly off the handle.

[vitali1999]

Povetkin

Povetkin is the only one out of that group that deserves a title shot. Haye should not be on that list, just because what he did at Cruiserwieght doesn't warrant him a shot at HW. Guys like Hatton and smaller fighters moving up from those wieght classes is a different story, it's easy to move up 5 pounds, it's not that much a difference, moving from Cruiserwieght to HW is totally different, alot more pounds to gain, because the competition is a hole lot bigger. Name one Cruiserwieght in history that had 1 HW fight and fought for the title? Well Haye would have been the first and still might if he gets Vitali. Holyfield fought 6 heavywieghts before he got his shot and 4 of them were top 10 contenders.

[Welter_Skelter]

Welter you obviously got the wrong message out of this. The only person who was called a journeyman was Monte Barrett. Earnie Shavers was a solid contender. The reason why Shavers was used as a reference was because of the lack of opposition for Wladimir, not his skills. Read it again before you fly off the handle.

Well I wasn't going off on you in particular Sir.. But since The Chagaev fight.. I have read a steady stream of criticism and lack of recognition towards Wlad.. Some people just flat out refusing to acknowledge their Heavyweight champ..
99% of it come from American journalists who present their opinions as NEWS and FACT..and An insecure American public eats it up..

Yes.. your article is not as bad as some.. But the fact remains.. Even in giving credit.. you 1st had to establish a so called Dearth of talent.. which is only true on the American scene.. Go figure

[HeartAttack]

Well I wasn't going off on you in particular Sir.. But since The Chagaev fight.. I have read a steady stream of criticism and lack of recognition towards Wlad.. Some people just flat out refusing to acknowledge their Heavyweight champ..
99% of it come from American journalists who present their opinions as NEWS and FACT..and An insecure American public eats it up..

Yes.. your article is not as bad as some.. But the fact remains.. Even in giving credit.. you 1st had to establish a so called Dearth of talent.. which is only true on the American scene.. Go figure

no it's true for the entire division. Tell me, what European is proven? The youth movement in the heavyweights are primarily Americans at the moment. You have Boytsov, Pala, Povetkin, Dimitrenko, and Pianeta. I'm sure I missed a name in there. As for Americans it's Chambers, Arreola, Johnson, Wilder, Scott, and Hamer. And then Solis is somewhere south of us but fights out of Germany but is based in the US, it's confusing. Tell me though, who here is the most proven that wasn't covered in the article? Wlad and Vitali are two very good heavyweights in a mediocre era. These young guys have a chance to make their era something, but will Wlad hang on long enough to stake his claim on theirs' as well?

[Welter_Skelter]

no it's true for the entire division. Tell me, what European is proven? The youth movement in the heavyweights are primarily Americans at the moment. You have Boytsov, Pala, Povetkin, Dimitrenko, and Pianeta. I'm sure I missed a name in there. As for Americans it's Chambers, Arreola, Johnson, Wilder, Scott, and Hamer. And then Solis is somewhere south of us but fights out of Germany but is based in the US, it's confusing. Tell me though, who here is the most proven that wasn't covered in the article? Wlad and Vitali are two very good heavyweights in a mediocre era. These young guys have a chance to make their era something, but will Wlad hang on long enough to stake his claim on theirs' as well?

Sir.. I have been watching boxing for a long time.. primarily the Heavyweights.. here is the ONLY exception I can ascertain in terms of talent comparing today to some yesterdays... The top guys... Today we have 2 guys who are dominant.. in the 90's it could be argued there was maybe 5.. In the 80's there was 2.. in the 70's there were 4...

after these top guys... the heavyweights haven't changed .. the talent pool has always been somewhat shallow

1976 Heavyweight rankings

1976
Champ- Muhammad Ali
1. George Foreman
2. Ken Norton
3. Jimmy Young
4. Duane Bobick
5. Ron Lyle
6. Larry Holmes
7. Howard Smith
8. Johnny Boudreaux
9. Stan Ward
10.Joe Bugner

You have your champ
a few top contenders
an up an comer
and a bunch of stiffs

please explain how today is any different??

Well for one It's Euros now..and THAT is it...

I dont see how the boxers of yesterday are better than the boxers of today

every other form of athletics has improved with time not declined.. people are more fit for longer.. in the 80's at age 30.. in the NHL.. you were done.. today players play well into their late 30's at a high level..

Why would boxing be the exception?? men have gotten bigger stronger faster better trained better nutrition .. yet it seems in boxing today the men are Clubbers with ZERO skill..

Again.. that would just seem to be the American scene.. The Euros are in great shape