About Floyd Mayweather...................

[Pullcounter]

why floyd #1? Cuz he beat marquez (coming up 2 weight classes), an old ass delahoya in a snoozer split decision, and hatton out of his weight class in the last 3 years? I got bhop, shane, izzy, and rafa at least ahead of him.

because floyd is the former #1 and if the current #1 (pac) loses and since JMM is the current #2, if floyd beats jmm it makes him instantly #1.

that said, he still needs to fight mosley and/or cotto (should he beat pac).

[HitBattousai]

actually cotto was winning before he quit.

nah... mosley is #1 cause he destroyed Margo (#1) who made cotto quit. yeah, cotto "beat" mosley, but it was a close fight and it was in MSG.

that said, a rematch between cotto and mosley would once and for all determine who is the real champ at WW.

of late??? Mosley destroyed Margo and Cotto barely beat Clottey!!! your logic is flawed.

Margarito was most likely cheating when he beat Cotto, which gives that loss an asterisk in the eyes of most. Cotto beat Mosley in a close fight and beat Clottey in a close fight. He has more notable wins than Mosley does at Welter over the last few years in beating Quintana, Judah, Mosley, and Clottey. Mosley's notable Welter wins are Collazo and Margarito(who didn't look as fresh as the one who fought Cotto imo). Overall, Cotto is the best Welter. But there isn't much of a gap between the top Welters, so if Cotto beats Pac and can't get a fight with Floyd, Shane logically should be his next opponent.

[TheSurgeonMDMPH]

Floyd is suppose to beat up a 36 year old lightweight. Who cares. #2 lb 4 lb is fine, but I forget about him. Pac is the biggest thing in boxing in right now so ima enjoy the ride while it lasts. I can promise 50 years from now people will be talking about pacman more than they will floyd, and pac will go down as the higher ATG. He's already been named fighter of the decade so this lb 4 lb stuff is irrelevant.

Jus like u said, ride the hype train!
u basing pacq's achievements off name recognition?
most are on board becuz he appears to b the anti-floyd.
the jig will b over soon. but i like his chances against cotto though.

[TheSurgeonMDMPH]

he has already more than usurped floyd. floyd has not beaten or fought an hof fighter in or around their prime. manny has 2, arguably 3.

who? enlighten us with this one!

[Pullcounter]

Margarito was most likely cheating when he beat Cotto, which gives that loss an asterisk in the eyes of most.

asterisk or not, the truth is cotto was outboxing margo easy until cotto gassed and quit.

that fight was cotto's to lose, cause arum for sure would've made sure cotto got dlh if he won.

you can talk about plaster all you want, but there is no proof, and if there was, I would be the first to call for that fight to be called a NO CONTEST.

Cotto beat Mosley in a close fight and beat Clottey in a close fight.

and he quit against Margo. and Mosley destroyed Margo easily.

He has more notable wins than Mosley does at Welter over the last few years in beating Quintana, Judah, Mosley, and Clottey. Mosley's notable Welter wins are Collazo and Margarito(who didn't look as fresh as the one who fought Cotto imo).

that's only cause mosley fought vargas 2x and mayorga above 154 lbs. what you really need to be looking at is their fights against each other and their fights against common opponents.

Overall, Cotto is the best Welter.

that's the PR slogan. I'll meet you half way and say let's see Cotto/Mosley II for all the marbles at WW.

But there isn't much of a gap between the top Welters, so if Cotto beats Pac and can't get a fight with Floyd, Shane logically should be his next opponent.

Cotto is a quitter, but I gotta give him credit for wanting to fight Mosley again.

that said, the WW division is pretty competitive. no one is vastly better than anyone else.

[taker1570]

I will still think of him as the same piece of dirt who wont fight anybody who will beat him.

[IMDAZED]

once again you guys try and twist the facts to deny shane his just due.

just to remind you cotto vs margarito was cotto #1 vs margartio#2. cotto lost so guess what margarito became #1. no if ands or buts about it.

margarito who was #1 lost to mosley who then became #1. mosley losing to cotto two years ago doesn't make cotto #1 today..do you get it.

Care to explain what facts are being twisted? Ehh, **** it.

[Spacey1991]

He could KO JMM in round 1 it doesn't make him P4P #1, Pacquiao has that spot since he retired until Floyd proves otherwise by him either beating Pacquiao... or him winning a big fight while Pacquiao loses.

This is from a completely unbiased point of view, Floyd is my favorite fighter but I gotta be fair by saying Floyd can't suddenly come out of retirement and claim to be P4P #1 even if he demolishes JMM, he would prove that he has potential to soon prove he is P4P #1 but IMO it doesn't mean he is straight away.

I think Floyd is more skilled than Pacquiao, and the more complete fighter, the better fighter... but skills and talent alone doesn't make him P4P #1, he was undisputed and was the king before he retired in 2007 fairly, but since then Pacquiao took his place and made it clear that he deserved it out of all the active fighters when Floyd was taking his break. That is the reason a Pacquiao vs Mayweather fight is in such demand... the former undisputed P4P #1 before retirement against the current undisputed P4P #1 fighter since his retirement... all in the space of 18 months, it makes sense IMO.

[VERDUGO]

PBF gets no credit from me for beating a 35 year old super featherweight.
That b8tch should be fighting the top WWs.

[Spacey1991]

it would be more impressive if Floyd were to give a Gatti like beating to someone that he isn't incredibly favored over such as Cotto or Mosley.

Floyd fans want to make in the GOAT just from beating someone who has never fought at the weight they will fight in. It doesnt work that way. Good win? Yes, but not better than a win over Mosley or Cotto.

I agree with this, if Floyd beats JMM its a good win, if convincingly its an even better win... but even though it is a good name to have on your resume I still wouldn't consider it career defining.