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  • madsweeney
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    #41
    Originally posted by The 5* General
    If he Gattis JMM after a two year layoff...I agree hes clearly number 2.

    The Cotto/Pac winner would be number 1 which sets up a 1 vs. 2 showdown.

    Great for boxing.
    Since when does p4p rank go up for beating smaller guys? Isn't that contrary to the idea of p4p?!?

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    • madsweeney
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      #42
      Originally posted by Brandish
      he lost to margarito so he aint the best period.




      sorry but margartoio doesn't have a question mark over his head cotto does, or are you trying to forget that margartio destroyed cotto and mosely destroyed margartio.

      right now shane is the @1 welterwight since he beat margarito who ws the #1 welterwight when he beat cotto who was the #1 welterweight until margarito got his hands on him.




      just face it pac is ducking the best fighter at 147 who just happens to be black and cotto just got a gift over clottey so the fight with pac is a garbage fight and won't be to determione the best at 147.

      Can you do me a favor and remind me who won Cotto Vs Mosley?

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      • Brandish
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        #43
        While I have no arguments with those who place Shane #1 at 147, your triangle logic is a little flawed. Yes Cotto lost to Margarito who lost to Shane but...didn't Shane lose to Cotto? Plus, I think Cotto's opposition at 147 these past couple of years (Clottey, for instance) gives him as much a claim to #1, if not more.
        once again you guys try and twist the facts to deny shane his just due.

        just to remind you cotto vs margarito was cotto #1 vs margartio#2. cotto lost so guess what margarito became #1. no if ands or buts about it.

        margarito who was #1 lost to mosley who then became #1. mosley losing to cotto two years ago doesn't make cotto #1 today..do you get it.

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        • Brandish
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          #44
          Can you do me a favor and remind me who won Cotto Vs Mosley?
          was cotto or mosley #1 at the time, so how does cotto winning against mosley in 2007 mean anything in 2009. cotto lost his #1 spot to margarito who lost his #1 spot to mosley very simple don;t you agree

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          • HitBattousai
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            #45
            Cotto fought a version of Margarito that most likely had loaded gloves, and it was a very competitive fight. Cotto also beat Mosley and Clottey in fights that could have gone either way. Overall, he's the number 1 welter. Shane would be probably a tougher matchup for Manny H2H, simply because Shane is faster, more powerful, and tougher than Cotto, but in terms of accomplishments at Welter of late, Cotto is the top guy.

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            • Kevin Jesus
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              #46
              Originally posted by 2501
              go ahead and show me where I said he is ducking either Cotto or Mosley in my post and I'll give you ALL of my points.
              2501, you didn't mention Floyd is ducking him in that particular post. You have said it before, hence when i said one day you accuse Floyd of ducking and another day you favor him over those same fighters.

              Originally posted by Chuckguy
              Hey do you need hooked on phonics or do I need glasses
              cause he never mentions Floyd ducking anyone in that post
              you are bringing **** in from beyond left field
              quit playing in the parking lot bro
              stay on point
              I'll get hooked on phonics then i will share it with you so you can read my first sentence in that post to 2501. If you have trouble finding what i am talking about just let me know.

              I took your advice and bought hooked on phonics, now i don't need it anymore so i want to share it with you my illiterate friend.
              Last edited by Kevin Jesus; 07-01-2009, 02:18 PM.

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              • 2501
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                #47
                Originally posted by Kevin Jesus
                2501, you didn't mention Floyd is ducking him in that particular post. You have said it before, hence when i said one day you accuse Floyd of ducking and another day you favor him over those same fighters.



                I'll get hooked on phonics then i will share it with you so you can read my first sentence in that post to 2501. If you have trouble finding what i am talking about just let me know.

                I took your advice and bought hooked on phonics, now i don't need it anymore so i want to share it with you my illiterate friend.
                No backtracking son. Where do I say that Floyd is ducking him? Where? As a matter of fact, quote me ANYTIME where I said Floyd is ducking him.

                And none of this, "I dont remember where or when" or "I don't have time to look" bull**** either.

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                • Pullcounter
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by chiyoko
                  If Floyd gives Marquez the pound for pound fighter who many believe beat Manny and does that in an aunprecedented fashion.Let's say its a repeat of Gatti until Marquez's corner throws in the towel what will you think of Floyd Mayweather? How will you rate him against Pacquio and in the pound for pound rankings.
                  I don't think you can answer this question until Pac/Cotto.

                  cause if Cotto beats Pac then floyd is instant #1... but if Pac beats Cotto, then Floyd is instant #2. You got to remember, it should be floyd that's fighting cotto not pac!

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                  • Walt Liquor
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Pullcounter
                    I don't think you can answer this question until Pac/Cotto.

                    cause if Cotto beats Pac then floyd is instant #1... but if Pac beats Cotto, then Floyd is instant #2. You got to remember, it should be floyd that's fighting cotto not pac!
                    why floyd #1? Cuz he beat marquez (coming up 2 weight classes), an old ass delahoya in a snoozer split decision, and hatton out of his weight class in the last 3 years? I got bhop, shane, izzy, and rafa at least ahead of him.

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                    • Pullcounter
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by HitBattousai
                      Cotto fought a version of Margarito that most likely had loaded gloves, and it was a very competitive fight.
                      actually cotto was winning before he quit.

                      Cotto also beat Mosley and Clottey in fights that could have gone either way. Overall, he's the number 1 welter.
                      nah... mosley is #1 cause he destroyed Margo (#1) who made cotto quit. yeah, cotto "beat" mosley, but it was a close fight and it was in MSG.

                      that said, a rematch between cotto and mosley would once and for all determine who is the real champ at WW.

                      Shane would be probably a tougher matchup for Manny H2H, simply because Shane is faster, more powerful, and tougher than Cotto, but in terms of accomplishments at Welter of late, Cotto is the top guy.
                      of late??? Mosley destroyed Margo and Cotto barely beat Clottey!!! your logic is flawed.

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