Lennox Lewis and the KLITCHKO BROTHERS are top 3 heavyweights of all time

[Poet682006]

Of course Floyd Patterson is a better fighter. In the "Pink Floyd" rankings.

As opposed to the Klitschkos in the "Red Fraud" rankings.

Poet

[knn]

Apart from Vitali admitting to using steroids and testing positive before the 1996 Atlanta Games.

Please only examples from pro-boxing. I don't care about Vitali's kickbox career or Olympic performances.

Moreover he revealed it himself:

The drugs admission is made in Vitali's autobiography, which has just been released and so far is available only in German. In it, Klitschko reveals that he turned to steroids after aggravating an old leg injury he had sustained in a kick-boxing tournament.
"He went to a normal Ukrainian doctor who gave him something that would heal it, but he didn't check the doping list," Boente said.
Klitschko admits that it was a steroid - and shortly afterwards the substance showed up in a routine drug test.
"They are not keeping this a secret," Boente said. "You have to remember this was the Ukraine of eight or nine years ago. Things are very different now.
"At first he was totally angry. He couldn't believe it."
In his eight-year professional career, Klitschko has been tested routinely for banned substances, including steroids, and has always been clean.
Tests for steroids are normal in Germany, where he had the majority of his contests during his rise to the championship.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/oth...oid-abuse.html

[Dubious-Dutch]

Please only examples from pro-boxing. I don't care about Vitali's kickbox career or Olympic performances.

Moreover he revealed it himself:

The drugs admission is made in Vitali's autobiography, which has just been released and so far is available only in German. In it, Klitschko reveals that he turned to steroids after aggravating an old leg injury he had sustained in a kick-boxing tournament.
"He went to a normal Ukrainian doctor who gave him something that would heal it, but he didn't check the doping list," Boente said.
Klitschko admits that it was a steroid - and shortly afterwards the substance showed up in a routine drug test.
"They are not keeping this a secret," Boente said. "You have to remember this was the Ukraine of eight or nine years ago. Things are very different now.
"At first he was totally angry. He couldn't believe it."
In his eight-year professional career, Klitschko has been tested routinely for banned substances, including steroids, and has always been clean.
Tests for steroids are normal in Germany, where he had the majority of his contests during his rise to the championship.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/oth...oid-abuse.html

Once a user always a user. People assume till this day that Mosley and Jones are on the substances.

[Kalion]

Once a user always a user. People assume till this day that Mosley and Jones are on the substances.

True.

I believe he's on the same **** his cousin Ivan Drago was on when he fought Rocky.

[K-Yo]

George Bush doesn't care about beavers

[GJC]

Please only examples from pro-boxing. I don't care about Vitali's kickbox career or Olympic performances.

Wasn't he trying to box rather than kick box at the Atlanta games?
Double standards re olympics you have quoted that Ali was a light heavy in the olympics numerous times which isn't really relevant to his professional career. Somebody being a steroids cheat is relevant though I think.
Who is to say that he hasn't got better at covering his tracks?
Also if one brother is on them it is not a huge stretch to beliebve the other is?
You again have made numerous quotes as to Holyfields supposed steroid abuse to which I believe is still unproved, Vitali's is and has been admitted to.
You seem a great believer in facts would these not qualify as facts?

[TheGreatA]

Wasn't he trying to box rather than kick box at the Atlanta games?
Double standards re olympics you have quoted that Ali was a light heavy in the olympics numerous times which isn't really relevant to his professional career. Somebody being a steroids cheat is relevant though I think.
Who is to say that he hasn't got better at covering his tracks?
Also if one brother is on them it is not a huge stretch to beliebve the other is?
You again have made numerous quotes as to Holyfields supposed steroid abuse to which I believe is still unproved, Vitali's is and has been admitted to.
You seem a great believer in facts would these not qualify as facts?

The facts are only facts when they happen to suit his agenda.

[tunayflip]

okay so the ***** that wouldn't give mike tyson time after he got out of jail to get ready and the ***** heavyweight champ that fights cruiserweights and got ktfo by some no name fighter are the greatest boxers of all time. So Muhamid Ali who fought when there were actually a good heavyweight division and came out on top is worse than the tall heavyweight champ that got knocked out by some no name heavyweight and tried to fight a cruiserweight and won't fight out of germany or fight the one person that would make a good fight with him which is his brother. There is a good reason why everyone disagrees with u and its cuz ur opinion is ******.

[dino]

Personally I'm not into Fantasy fights rubbish. I give both Lewis and Vitali a good chance of winning against the old time greats. As for Wladdy, sorry, I just don't see him lasting with any of the top old dogs, Marciano would murder Wladdy, all you have to do is watch some of Marciano fights, Wladdy never fought anyone like Marciano.

if you think marciano would murder wlad then your either ignorant/****** or lying to yourself.

If today marciano at 185 pounds was matched up against wlad klitchko you wouldn't bet your mothers life on it that marciano would win. I would bet my life the fight wouldn't go 12 rounds

[ACHlLLES]

if you think marciano would murder wlad then your either ignorant/****** or lying to yourself.

If today marciano at 185 pounds was matched up against wlad klitchko you wouldn't bet your mothers life on it that marciano would win. I would bet my life the fight wouldn't go 12 rounds

**** would be lucky if it went 1 round and I'm Italian. Marciano is too small, if he was the same weight as the Klitschkos I don't know if he'd be able to handle them. Styles make fights, and people seem to hate the klitschkos even though their style will bother almost any fighters. I don't even know what kind of style bothers Vitali, he was winning on points in both of the fights he lost.