Lennox Lewis and the KLITCHKO BROTHERS are top 3 heavyweights of all time

[ippo]

Once a user always a user. People assume till this day that Mosley and Jones are on the substances.

What kind of BS is this once a user always a user.You do know doctors in the U.S. can give you steroid injections for injuries.

Also for one you can't compare past heavyweights to todays heavyweights.They were basically cruisersweights.Today we have modern training and are able to study past fights and have old time trainers with all the experience.The old time greats are great fighters in their day,but todays heavyweights would easily blow them out of the water.Lennoix lewis and both klitchkos would beat any of the old time great heavyweights.They have the benefit of being a lot bigger,modern training,modern nutrition,and the ability to study the past great fighters.

[Dubious-Dutch]

What kind of BS is this once a user always a user.You do know doctors in the U.S. can give you steroid injections for injuries.

Also for one you can't compare past heavyweights to todays heavyweights.They were basically cruisersweights.Today we have modern training and are able to study past fights and have old time trainers with all the experience.The old time greats are great fighters in their day,but todays heavyweights would easily blow them out of the water.Lennoix lewis and both klitchkos would beat any of the old time great heavyweights.They have the benefit of being a lot bigger,modern training,modern nutrition,and the ability to study the past great fighters.

You couldn't sense the sarcasm in my post?

[ippo]

Once a user always a user. People assume till this day that Mosley and Jones are on the substances.

You couldn't sense the sarcasm in my post?

Sorry read it wrong,its 3am in the morning and i can't sleep since its 100+ degrees.

[Dubious-Dutch]

Sorry read it wrong,its 3am in the morning and i can't sleep since its 100+ degrees.

No problem here, it's tough to read someone through a computer :-)

[knn]

You couldn't sense the sarcasm in my post?

There is no sarcasm in forums without smilies or emoticons.

[shade darkar]

the average as.shole (most of you) is what I like to call a MEDIA PUPPET. Meaning you follow what ever is 'popular' everybody says Muhhammad Ali is the greatest so we'll say it. Marciano was popular he so he's a great, Louis, Dempsey yada yada yah.

The truth of the matter is, for those FEW of us who aren't media puppets LEWIS and the KLITCHKOS beat any heavyweight who's ever fought more times then not. People like Mike Tyson because of his CHARACTER, yea he was good in his prime, but prime lennox always beats tyson, tyson could never get past the jab. Tyson has always had **** stamnia and always got discouraged when he couldn't knock a guy out within 3-4 rounds.

Ali had no power and wouldnt be knocked out by all 3, he's not decisioning a modern day 6'7 240 pound heavyweight, hell he got 2 gift decisions vs Norton. Marciano, Dempsey, Louis are too small and would be destroyed rather quickly, those 3 wouldn't even beat an average fighter like David Tua or Razor Ruddock.

As I said in years past, if their was magically a heavyweight boxing tournament of the top most known 64 heavyweights all time, college basketball tourney style, Marciao dempsey ali louis wouldn't be the final 4, they might not even get out of the 1st round. Imagine these 1st round match ups.

Ibeuchi vs Dempsey, Marciano vs V.Klitchko, Feather Fisted ALI vs Valuev Louis vs Holyfield .

If you had to bet your house on it that rocky marciano could beat lennox lewis or muhhammad ali could be wlad klitchko then your as ****** as you look!

haaha. both klit****s are 2 average fighters in a very talent deprived division.tyson was a million times better than the klit****s.

[knn]

haaha. both klit****s are 2 average fighters in a very talent deprived division.tyson was a million times better than the klit****s.

1 million times better? You mean Tyson won like 20 million world titles?

[shade darkar]

1 million times better? You mean Tyson won like 20 million world titles?

no i mean tyson is 1 million times better than the klit****s. its not rocket science!!!!

[GJC]

Today we have modern training and are able to study past fights and have old time trainers with all the experience.The old time greats are great fighters in their day,but todays heavyweights would easily blow them out of the water.Lennoix lewis and both klitchkos would beat any of the old time great heavyweights.They have the benefit of being a lot bigger,modern training,modern nutrition,and the ability to study the past great fighters.

But wouldn't the old HW's in todays era also have the benefit of modern nutrition, modern training, steroids and video to study modern fighters?

[GJC]

If Foreman was poisoned then it's not a huge stretch to believe all of Ali's opponents were drugged. Nonsense.

But you have offered zero proof that Foreman was drugged it is a fact that Vitali tested positive

Not quite. Read the quote from his biography. Vitali didn't admit to have taken steroids to enhance his performance.

Very few steroid cheats admit to it. I believe Ben Johnson's 1st defense was injury too.

So far you just posted speculations. It's as if I would base my record analysis of Ali's opponents purely on the Foreman-was-drugged theory.

No Vitali testing positive is fact if it was speculation you would deny it, as it is fact you have to admit it and qualify it.
Speculation is Foreman being drugged and Holyfield and Tyson being on steroids as there is no physical proof. Fact is something that is backed by uncontestable proof speculation is something that is back by opinion and zero proof.
Very simple concept, no?