Tyson says "PBF is the best boxer right now, Pac close second"

[Unknown Champ]

tyson is very knowledable though, so i resoect his take on this situaion

[Horus]

THIS IS NOT FIGURE SKATING SON!

STYLES AND POINTS ARE USED IN FIGURE SKATING not in boxing.

Manny is a real fighter while Floyd is a boring runner.

Manny is the REAL KING and it shall remain like this for sometime. Nothing Floyd can do or say will change this. Manny is close to winning another title even if it is at a catch weight, the opponent is a live one.

The 7 Reason's MAYWEATHER never Lost or Never Will..!!!

CASTILLO 1

Floyd does not fight live fighters either so yes he will never lose. He is a coward cherry picker.

Live fighters?
So is a Manny Pacquiao fan telling me that Mayweather fights weight drain and dead fighters?

Ironic...

Manny Pacquiao is an exciting fighter. Hands down.

• But he is not a complete fighter.
• He is not a complete boxer
• He is not a technically sound boxer
• He still punches with his eyes close.

Manny Pacquiao is great at what he does.
which is throw alot of punches...and has great great foot work. tremendous lateral movement... And he showed the greatest amount of improvement in a fighter in a period of 5 years that i have ever seen.


But Manny Pacquiao fights in one rhythm.
Offensive!

Which is great for the sport.
But when you are comparing him to Mayweather.

• You are comparing him to a fighter who is a a complete boxer
• You are comparing him to a fighter technically sound
• You are comparing him to a fighter who fights with his eyes open.
  and so on....

One of the things that Makes floyd special is that he fights in 2 rhythms.

Two different overall rhythmic forms:

1. the rhythm of offensive motion
2. the rhythm of defensive motion.

There are usually two different overall rhythmic forms, what I call the set-up rhythm
(preparing to punch or waiting to counterpunch, depending on the style of the boxer)
the rhythm of offensive motion and the rhythm of defensive motion.

However Floyd, like many great boxers varies these rhythms in subtle ways that are difficult for opponents to time, and he can seamlessly flow from one rhythmic form to the next without any break in the forms. Usually the opponent is not even aware that the transition has occurred until it is too late.

what makes boxing the ‘Sweet Science’ is not two guys just slugging it out in a 'see who falls first' scenario. It is seeing some real skill and artistry in the ring.


Pacquiao is no way near the better boxer or fighter than Mayweather.

Pacquiao is a fighter that is dangerous because he so explosive.
and powerful. Thats sums up Pacquiao strengths.

but lets not confuse Pacquiao's greatness as a fighter to Mayweather greatness as a fighter.

Pacquiao is #2.
remember the only reason Pacquiao number#1 p4p is because mayweather retired.

[BoxingChaos]

Runner?
So what does floyd suppose to do walk around the ring?

If you think Floyd is a runner what was Ali, Srl, Pernell ..


If avoiding punishment were the stuff of "track stars"

why do you find equipment in every boxing gym that improves head
movement?

Why do fighters wear ankle weights?

jump rope?

And simulate ducking punches when doing pad workouts?




Martin Wade

Running in Boxing

Running in boxing does not take on the literal meaning as it is understood by non aficionados. In boxing, when a fighter is blessed with lightening reflexes of hand and foot he often chooses to use them with lethal results.

Many “armchair boxing experts” accused Mayweather of running from Carlos Baldomir/Oscar De La Hoya/Ricky Hatton even at the risk of sounding ******.

Even my girlfriend seethed at Floyd’s nimble escapes and called him a “*****”.Don’t believe it was a dumb thing to say?

Then answer this, if your best friend stopped by looking like Carlos Baldomir/Oscar De La Hoya/Ricky Hatton after Floyd chewed him up and said to you “I tried to fight but the other guy ran”

what would you think?.

I’ll tell you what you’d think; you’d think to yourself (while giving him that uh huh look) “yeah he ran all over your face”. In other words, speed kills and Floyd Mayweather has plenty of it. Whenever

I watch a fight where a speed oriented fighter employs his natural gifts to victory the fallen opponent (to save face) always resorts to use of the “r” word-“he ran”. Now I won’t even get into the “cultural” undertones of the use of the word “running” pertaining to athletic African American fighters. We all tend to rely on “cultural cliff notes” regarding styles in boxing and for that there is no fault. Yet I will focus on what the strategy of using ones mobility will mean to Floyd Mayweather in the biggest fight of his life.

WHO GOT HIT MORE AGAINST HATTON AND ODLH? Floyd or Manny?
Who is better? Hello? Your math is no longer working here, your calculator is broken.. Read below.

Floyd did nothing to an OLD ODLH. I saw him running.
Got one lucky punch against Hatton, again, I saw nothing but running, hugging and elbows galore from Floyd.

Now, let's talk about the DESTROYER Manny Pacquiao against these same fighters. Manny got hit less by both fighters. Floyd after his bout with an OLD ODLH, had a big mouse under his eye. Hatton was hitting Floyd the first 4 rounds.

Did Manny suffer this kind of punishment?

Manny was barely touched by either. So Floyd is the runner and the lesser of a fighter.

Are you that blind Horus? So how does the fact that Floyd got hit more against ODLH and Hatton make Floyd the so called overall better fighter?

Do the math.

Manny to Hatton 1 round and a half. BOOM! Destroyed.
ODLH. 6 rounds of PACMANIA flew wild and ODLH said NO MAS.

Floyd got hit by Hatton, Floyd struggled and was only lucky with a punch he should have landed ages ago. Manny More ACCURATE because Manny did it in less than TWO.

Should I keep going? Should I try to explain it another way?

[Horus]

WHO GOT HIT MORE AGAINST HATTON AND ODLH? Floyd or Manny?
Who is better? Hello? Your math is no longer working here, your calculator is broken.. Read below.

Floyd did nothing to an OLD ODLH. I saw him running.
Got one lucky punch against Hatton, again, I saw nothing but running, hugging and elbows galore from Floyd.

Now, let's talk about the DESTROYER Manny Pacquiao against these same fighters. Manny got hit less by both fighters. Floyd after his bout with an OLD ODLH, had a big mouse under his eye. Hatton was hitting Floyd the first 4 rounds.

Did Manny suffer this kind of punishment?

Manny was barely touched by either. So Floyd is the runner and the lesser of a fighter.

Are you that blind Horus? So how does the fact that Floyd got hit more against ODLH and Hatton make Floyd the so called overall better fighter?

Do the math.

Manny to Hatton 1 round and a half. BOOM! Destroyed.
ODLH. 6 rounds of PACMANIA flew wild and ODLH said NO MAS.

Floyd got hit by Hatton, Floyd struggled and was only lucky with a punch he should have landed ages ago. Manny More ACCURATE because Manny did it in less than TWO.

Should I keep going? Should I try to explain it another way?

Are you trying to use triangle theory to make a point?
How many times have triangle theory work in boxing?

I thought you would come harder than this..!
guess not

Ask George Foreman About Triangle Theory when he fought ALI..

[Jim Jeffries]

Are you trying to use triangle theory to make a point?
How many times have triangle theory work in boxing?

I thought you would come harder than this..!
guess not

Ask George Foreman About Triangle Theory when he fought tyson..

That's not the triangle theory, it's comparing performances against identical opponents. Say, Floyd fought three guys that Cotto did, I wonder who performed better in those fights?

And Tyson never fought Foreman, he was too busy fighting 42-1 underdog Buster Douglas.

[pbftxrs316]

hey horus, please... just stop while you're ahead...way ahead...the responses you've gotten are so retarted, it kills me to even pinoy this out to you....i mean, point this out to you...i haven't read a response that even holds a candle to yours so please, just stop...it's pointless to post the obvious......

you know what?...**** it....keep slaying these dumb ****s...you and i both know, and we have seen this for years now, that pac is not in floyd's league, in no way, shape, or form... we know the truth....and floyd is just that...by the way, what's been up my dude?lol. besides the obvious...

[BoxingChaos]

That's not the triangle theory, it's comparing performances against identical opponents. Say, Floyd fought three guys that Cotto did, I wonder who performed better in those fights?

And Tyson never fought Foreman, he was too busy fighting 42-1 underdog Buster Douglas.

That is exactly what I was doing. I was comparing these guys based on their last two same opponents. Manny did a better job. So that makes Manny better. Floyd gets a D for his performance against ODLH. Manny gets an A.
Floyd gets a C- for his performance against Hatton. Manny gets an A+. End of son. Horus You said Floyd was better but Manny showed who could do the better job. Oooppss.

[dfwtx]

With Pacquiao about to face the BIGGER, STRONGER Cotto, his resume currently ****s all over Floyds.

You can talk like that if he wins but signing a contract doesn't make him ****.

[Horus]

hey horus, please... just stop while you're ahead...way ahead...the responses you've gotten are so retarted, it kills me to even pinoy this out to you....i mean, point this out to you...i haven't read a response that even holds a candle to yours so please, just stop...it's pointless to post the obvious......

you know what?...**** it....keep slaying these dumb ****s...you and i both know, and we have seen this for years now, that pac is not in floyd's league, in no way, shape, or form... we know the truth....and floyd is just that...by the way, what's been up my dude?lol. besides the obvious...

Man, the thing is I like Pacquiao.

Manny Pacquiao is great at what he does.
which is throw alot of punches...and has great great foot work. tremendous lateral movement... And he showed the greatest amount of improvement in a fighter in a period of 5 years that i have ever seen.

But, he is not a better fighter than Mayweather.

that is not a bad thing to say about a fighter who was just a 1 handed fighter a few years ago.

Truth be told...Manny Pacquiao is just not a all around better fighter than Mayweather

1. He is not a complete fighter.
2. He is not a complete boxer
3. He is not a technically sound boxer
4. He still punches with his eyes close.

But this is ok...because Pacquiao is a fighter that is dangerous because he so explosive.and powerful. Thats sums up Pacquiao strengths.


BUT
what makes boxing the ‘Sweet Science’ is not two guys just slugging it out in a 'see who falls first' scenario. It is seeing some real skill and artistry in the ring.


And Mayweather is the total package.

so lets not confuse Pacquiao's greatness as a fighter to Mayweather greatness as a fighter.

Pacquiao is #2.
remember the only reason Pacquiao number#1 p4p is because mayweather retired.

[RisAri0]

shane mosely should holler at that interviewer.. I'm just saying.. i think she was giving him the green light with that 'account' line