Tyson says "PBF is the best boxer right now, Pac close second"

[BoxingChaos]

Mayweather or the GBP pays tyson. its obvious

It sure ain't Floyd because Floyd and Tyson are in the same boat. Both can reach into their pocket and grab nothing but limp **** and pennies. Ain't no big money in them pockets they are both broke.

[BoxingChaos]

Floyd is the better runner and potshoter but Manny is the freakin destroyer.
Just ask Hatton and ODLH who is the man. Floyd could not hold Manny's Jock.

Boxing is about beating the opponent up at the end of the day right? Manny made ODLH say no mas and he destroyed Hatton in less than two. Who is the better fighter?
OOOOPPPPS!

You were saying Horus?

[Horus]

Umm, I don't think they're talking about boxing style, when they asked him who the best boxer is, they meant who is the best fighter.

PAC w/o a doubt, until Floyd proves everyone wrong. Hope he doesn't f**k it up against Juanita.

This is boxing...
Floyd Mayweather is the best boxer in boxing. Period

The sport is not called fighting...
make no mistakes... yes some fighters fight in boxing..but when you say who is the best boxer in all of boxing right now...then the answer is Mayweather.

For me what makes a fighter a great boxer is not just going in thier just slugging it out in a 'see who falls first' scenario.
It is seeing some real skill and artistry in the ring.

So when they ask who is the best boxer in boxing.. the answer without a doubt is Mayweather

The 7 Reason's MAYWEATHER never Lost or Never Will..!!!

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=235602

Floyd Mayweather : The ‘Sweet Science’
Steve Coleman

For me what makes boxing the ‘Sweet Science’ is not two guys just slugging it out in a 'see who falls first' scenario. It is seeing some real skill and artistry in the ring.

In Boxing defense is not often given the credit it deserves and Floyd's defense is one of the best that I have ever seen. The only other boxers whose defense is similar in some respects is James Toney.

1. Mayweather's defense


Key to Mayweather's defense is the fact that he is always moving as well as the rhythm,speed and smoothness of his movements, this is what makes this defense effective.

All the while his opponent is punching.
Floyd is

• rolling,
• slipping,
• pivoting at the waist,
• feinting,
• bobbing and weaving,
• constantly displaying various ‘modes’ of movement .

The rhythm of the rolling is very interesting because most opponents alternate their punches in a very predictable way, only occasionally doubling up with the same hand in the middle of flurries.


When his body is turned to his right Floyd's left shoulder usually rolls up high to deflect punches and sometimes additionally he uses his left arm to deflect punches, it depends on the angle of the punch. Shots to this left side of his body are usually deflected upward and/or in front of him. When Mayweather's body is turned to the left his right hand is held up high with his elbow tucked in, so these shots get blocked also, a few well placed body shots can get in but Floyd is already rolling after the first punch connects.

On the rare occasion where a fighter does double up with the same hand Floyd usually catches this and improvises by adjusting his rhythm with a series of 'changes of direction' in his rolling. The thing to notice is the timing, all fighters have a rhythm to their movements which can be timed by an experienced opponent after several rounds of boxing.
2.Two different overall rhythmic forms:

1. the rhythm of offensive motion
2. the rhythm of defensive motion.

There are usually two different overall rhythmic forms, what I call the set-up rhythm
(preparing to punch or waiting to counterpunch, depending on the style of the boxer)
the rhythm of offensive motion and the rhythm of defensive motion.

However Floyd, like many great boxers varies these rhythms in subtle ways that are difficult for opponents to time, and he can seamlessly flow from one rhythmic form to the next without any break in the forms. Usually the opponent is not even aware that the transition has occurred until it is too late.


3.The name of the game is not aggressiveness, it is 'effective aggressiveness'.

Most of Floyd's Opponents punches get deflected and do not do much damage. Also use up a lot of energy in the process.
It is tiring and frustrating to punch at a target that constantly making you miss.

What constantly surprises me is the ignorance of the HBO commentators Jim Lampley,and Larry Merchant They kept talking about that Floyd should stay off the ropes. Now these HBO cats have seen so many fights they should know certain techniques by now.

4.Floyd Rest on The Ropes:

First of all Floyd get's hit with very few punches when he is on the ropes. Many times during Floyd's fights Floyd would rest while letting His Opponents flail away at him, this is a calculated ploy that only works because of the nature of Floyd's defensive skills.

Sometimes Floyd lays on the ropes, sometimes he stands in the middle of the ring right in front of his opponent, in neither case opponents rarely actually connects with thier punches in significant numbers.

Floyd's sense of the flow of a fight is fantastic.

5.Staying 'in the pocket',

When Floyd stands 'in the pocket', meaning that Mayweather was so close to His Opponent that they can not get the proper leverage on their punches.
There is an optimum distance that most fighters need to execute effectively.



6.The Science of Floyd's Offense

Offensively Floyd, 'place' his shots, he is not just wasting energy throwing punches. Even when he is in these defensive stances he is looking for well placed shots in the middle of the other boxer's flurries Notice that his eyes are wide open and they are seeing everything that is happening.
With many other top fighters this is not the case.

It is a natural reflex to close your eyes when an object is coming at your face and great boxers train to counter this tendency.

In the Joel Casamayor vs. Diego Corrales fight both boxers had defensive lapses while concentrating on offensive and there were moments when both fighters closed their eyes while punching.

Shane Mosley also closed his eyes a lot and flinched when Vernon Forrest had him against the ropes.

7.The Science of Movement

Changes of speed and direction, pivoting and spinning, dipping, rocking, backpedaling, sidestepping, feinting, weaving, side-slipping, angles––all are part of a repertoire of constantly shifting balancing mannerisms designed to alter the perspective of the observer, a kind of slick motion geometry. I call these various types of counterbalancing movement techniques ‘modalities of rhythm’.

This tradition has always been passed down from master to student mainly through experiencing the ‘feel’ of these modalities as well as using analogy to pass on information. However it is the insights that are gained through these experiences and the ability to execute that creates masters.


Floyd Mayweather Has Mastered The ‘Sweet Science’

[Horus]

Floyd is the better runner and potshoter but Manny is the freakin destroyer.
Just ask Hatton and ODLH who is the man. Floyd could not hold Manny's Jock.

Boxing is about beating the opponent up at the end of the day right? Manny made ODLH say no mas and he destroyed Hatton in less than two. Who is the better fighter?
OOOOPPPPS!

if you think manny pacquiao is a better boxer than floyd mayweather.
then you are just ******.
Manny Pacquiao does nothing better than Mayweather in terms of boxing nothing.

boxing is called the sweet science for a reason.

[BoxingChaos]

This is boxing...
Floyd Mayweather is the best boxer in boxing. Period

The sport is not called fighting...
make no mistakes... yes some fighters fight in boxing..but when you say who is the best boxer in all of boxing right now...then the answer is Mayweather.

For me what makes a fighter a great boxer is not just going in thier just slugging it out in a 'see who falls first' scenario.
It is seeing some real skill and artistry in the ring.

So when they ask who is the best boxer in boxing.. the answer without a doubt is Mayweather

The 7 Reason's MAYWEATHER never Lost or Never Will..!!!

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=235602

THIS IS NOT FIGURE SKATING SON!

STYLES AND POINTS ARE USED IN FIGURE SKATING not in boxing.

Manny is a real fighter while Floyd is a boring runner.

Manny is the REAL KING and it shall remain like this for sometime. Nothing Floyd can do or say will change this. Manny is close to winning another title even if it is at a catch weight, the opponent is a live one.

The 7 Reason's MAYWEATHER never Lost or Never Will..!!!

CASTILLO 1

Floyd does not fight live fighters either so yes he will never lose. He is a coward cherry picker.

[Sutekh uvdabrix]

shane better keep baby shane in his pants ...that asian chick looks like trouble...shane has a weekness for asians

[taker1570]

Pac Man is #2. Floyd's skills are just too insane to doubt. He will KO Pac.

[BoxingChaos]

if you think manny pacquiao is a better boxer than floyd mayweather.
then you are just ******.
Manny Pacquiao does nothing better than Mayweather in terms of boxing nothing.

boxing is called the sweet science for a reason.

Manny does everything better than Floyd, he just showed the world how to rip apart two fighters that Floyd struggled with. Did Manny struggle with ODLH? Nope, it was so one sided that ODLH pulled a Victor Ortiz. Did Manny struggle with Hatton? Hell no, Manny almost killed Hatton in under two rounds. Hatton was on the floor for more than 2 minutes. Who does what better? Manny showed the world how much better he is than Mayweather.

[Horus]

THIS IS NOT FIGURE SKATING SON!

STYLES AND POINTS ARE USED IN FIGURE SKATING not in boxing.

Manny is a real fighter while Floyd is a boring runner.

Manny is the REAL KING and it shall remain like this for sometime. Nothing Floyd can do or say will change this. Manny is close to winning another title even if it is at a catch weight, the opponent is a live one.

Runner?
So what does floyd suppose to do walk around the ring?

If you think Floyd is a runner what was Ali, Srl, Pernell ..


If avoiding punishment were the stuff of "track stars"

why do you find equipment in every boxing gym that improves head
movement?

Why do fighters wear ankle weights?

jump rope?

And simulate ducking punches when doing pad workouts?




Martin Wade

Running in Boxing

Running in boxing does not take on the literal meaning as it is understood by non aficionados. In boxing, when a fighter is blessed with lightening reflexes of hand and foot he often chooses to use them with lethal results.

Many “armchair boxing experts” accused Mayweather of running from Carlos Baldomir/Oscar De La Hoya/Ricky Hatton even at the risk of sounding ******.

Even my girlfriend seethed at Floyd’s nimble escapes and called him a “*****”.Don’t believe it was a dumb thing to say?

Then answer this, if your best friend stopped by looking like Carlos Baldomir/Oscar De La Hoya/Ricky Hatton after Floyd chewed him up and said to you “I tried to fight but the other guy ran”

what would you think?.

I’ll tell you what you’d think; you’d think to yourself (while giving him that uh huh look) “yeah he ran all over your face”. In other words, speed kills and Floyd Mayweather has plenty of it. Whenever

I watch a fight where a speed oriented fighter employs his natural gifts to victory the fallen opponent (to save face) always resorts to use of the “r” word-“he ran”. Now I won’t even get into the “cultural” undertones of the use of the word “running” pertaining to athletic African American fighters. We all tend to rely on “cultural cliff notes” regarding styles in boxing and for that there is no fault. Yet I will focus on what the strategy of using ones mobility will mean to Floyd Mayweather in the biggest fight of his life.

[Unknown Champ]

tyson is wild yo