Abraham-Oral. Discussion and R-B-R.

[Dubious-Dutch]

The jab only decreased 2% in the rematch, I'm not sure if that's to do with the weight though. I agree he had a little less pop but it didn't effect him that much. The fact of the matter was Taylor fought a more cautious fight and didn't allow Pavlik to hit him clean as much. If the rematch was at 160 I think it would have still been the same fight.

We both seem to agree on this issue.

I agree with some of this but at 168 he will be more active than he was tonight. He'll have to increase his workrate against Pavlik because he won't be easy to KO. I think he's going to stop him late though. Pavlik isn't hard to tag and loves to trade, AA won't have to look for him.

I was referring to a match up with a healthy Abraham at 160 for the scenario in my previous post. But at 168 we have not seen Abraham's increased work rate or power. We did however watch Arthur fight nearly at the 168 limit verse Miranda(166) and his work rate for the first couple of rounds was nearly the same. Edison was even able to outwork him in several rounds until of course he was caught and Knocked Out. Maybe, he has an increase in power but I am still skeptical about his punch output increase.

[Guest]

We both seem to agree on this issue.



I was referring to a match up with a healthy Abraham at 160 for the scenario in my previous post. But at 168 we have not seen Abraham's increased work rate or power. We did however watch Arthur fight nearly at the 168 limit verse Miranda(166) and his work rate for the first couple of rounds was nearly the same. Edison was even able to outwork him in several rounds until of course he was caught and Knocked Out. Maybe, he has an increase in power but I am still skeptical about his punch output increase.

Several rounds? It only lasted not even four.

[Dubious-Dutch]

Several rounds? It only lasted not even four.

Four rounds, is all we have to work with near the Super Middleweight limit. For a much better view all of us need to watch Arthur fight someone at 168 who is decent.

[Vivid Intent]

We both seem to agree on this issue.



I was referring to a match up with a healthy Abraham at 160 for the scenario in my previous post. But at 168 we have not seen Abraham's increased work rate or power. We did however watch Arthur fight nearly at the 168 limit verse Miranda(166) and his work rate for the first couple of rounds was nearly the same. Edison was even able to outwork him in several rounds until of course he was caught and Knocked Out. Maybe, he has an increase in power but I am still skeptical about his punch output increase.

At the stoppage I think most had it 2-1 Miranda. Abraham is a slow starter anyway so I'm not looking too far into that.

[Dubious-Dutch]

At the stoppage I think most had it 2-1 Miranda. Abraham is a slow starter anyway so I'm not looking too far into that.

Yea, and we still have see Arthur in some actual bouts at the 168 pound limit before people assume Abraham will throw more than his average of 10 punches a round.

[Guest]

Four rounds, is all we have to work with near the Super Middleweight limit. For a much better view all of us need to watch Arthur fight someone at 168 who is decent.

Sure, I am game for it.
I just know how hard it is to lose 5 extra pounds when you are already in great shape.

It should be an entertaining run at 168 with some great fights on the horizon.

And cancelling fights because of missing weight, etc, won't be an option now.

[Dubious-Dutch]

Sure, I am game for it.
I just know how hard it is to lose 5 extra pounds when you are already in great shape.

It should be an entertaining run at 168 with some great fights on the horizon.

And cancelling fights because of missing weight, etc, won't be an option now.

It will be an exciting run at Super Middleweight unless he fights Kessler.

[Guest]

It will be an exciting run at Super Middleweight unless he fights Kessler.

I love that fight.

And both guys would make a ton on it.