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  • BattlingNelson
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    #221
    Originally posted by jreckoning
    Look Miranda isn't great but he was only ko'ed by Pavlik. He can take a shot.
    It's clear to me AA's power is good but better higher.
    AA will be much busier at the higher weight I'm sure. And he will be tested more at 168. The division is stacked.

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    • Iceta
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      #222
      Damn man. I should've stayed off BScene until the fight was over with. I don't think Abraham can beat Pavlik, and this is what is making Pavlik look so ****** by not telling Arum to f#ck off and let the fight happen. I'd actually rather see a fight between Pavlik and Williams to be honest. Arthur is nothing special.

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      • Vivid Intent
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        #223
        Abraham will beat the **** out of Pavlik if it's at 168 rest assured.

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          #224
          Originally posted by BattlingNelson
          AA will be much busier at the higher weight I'm sure. And he will be tested more at 168. The division is stacked.
          He didn't show that superior work rate at 166, two pounds off of the Super Middleweight division VS Miranda. It was nearly a repeat of this fight with Oral. Hands high while being outworked and fighting in flash moments.

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            #225
            He has big power in both hands, but is depending on that power. He has to realize against other high caliber fighters, he will have to work also as the big punch will not always work for him against them.

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              #226
              Originally posted by jreckoning
              The trick definitely is to keep throwing with AA and don't trade.
              Absolutely. Good footwork and jab and keep the eyes open at all times. AA can definetely be outpointed. Pavlik should have taken the fight. I think he has the tools.

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                #227
                Originally posted by Dubious-Dutch
                AA has showed plenty of one punch power in the Middleweight division, knocking out Miranda at a catch weight of 166 doesn't prove much.
                Originally posted by Dubious-Dutch
                He didn't show that superior work rate at 166, two pounds off of the Super Middleweight division VS Miranda. It was nearly a repeat of this fight with Oral. Hands high while being outworked and fighting in flash moments.
                Miranda was ko'ed in the 4th. and Miranda said he could feel the power difference with the extra weight. His words, not mine.

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                • TheGreatA
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                  #228
                  Abraham says he fights at 60% as a middleweight.

                  I can't say whether he will actually be better at a higher weight or not. I never really rated Miranda. The top 168 lbers Kessler, Bute, Froch, Taylor, Andrade and others would be the toughest opponents Abraham has ever fought and I'm looking forward to what he can do against them.

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                  • Dubious-Dutch
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                    #229
                    Originally posted by Vivid Intent
                    Abraham will beat the **** out of Pavlik if it's at 168 rest assured.
                    Pavlik has looked worse and worse every time he has moved up so of course Abraham would. That would be like Kelly fighting a weight drained Arthur at 160.

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                      #230
                      Originally posted by jreckoning
                      Miranda was ko'ed in the 4th. and Miranda said he could feel the power difference with the extra weight. His words, not mine.
                      The power may be slightly increased, but the performances looked identical to those at 160. This is also Miranda we are talking about

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