Prime Kostya vs Cotto

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  • onedream722
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    #61
    Originally posted by skullduggery
    zab judah got his ass whooped all around the ring when he fought floyd.... he never made floyd look ******... he simply won a few rounds.....
    he did when zab check hooked mayweather and his glove hit the ground but the ref didn't rule it a knockdown....

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    • skullduggery
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      #62
      Originally posted by onedream722
      he did when zab check hooked mayweather and his glove hit the ground but the ref didn't rule it a knockdown....
      not really.... i caught floyd off balance.... thats about it... demarcus corley did more to floyd than judah did... much more

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      • BennyST
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        #63
        Originally posted by Mr._Pink
        he has not achieved more than tszyu. that's the point.

        cotto is the more current fighter.

        his opponents are fresh in mind.

        10-15 years from now people who are new to boxing will look at guys like torres , abdulaev , corley , etc. the same way you look at guys like hurtado , bergman , jake rodriguez , hugo pineda , etc.
        This is the part I find most amusing. You have people saying Quintana is better than anyone Tszyu ever fought, apart from Judah and Hatton. He has had three title fights, been knocked out in five rounds in one, won the other and then was knocked out in one round by the same guy in his next fight, and somehow he's better than everyone Tszyu has ever fought....Oh, except for Hatton and Judah because they're the only two guys still fighting a lot today and the only two fighters they know.

        People were just as hyped about Jan Bergman as they are about Victor Ortiz today when he fought Tszyu. He was undefeated at 32-0, had knocked nearly every single opponent out, had won the WBC 140 Int. World Title off the former champion Kamel Ali, as well as just beaten the former champ Mike Johnson before he fought Tszyu, who knocked him out in six. No one remembers Bergman today though, just like no one will remember Quintana, Abdullaev, Bailey, Pinto, Corley etc etc.

        In another ten years things will be in perspective again. I guess everyone is going to think that Cotto and everyone he fights is better because they are more involved with him.

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        • onedream722
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          #64
          Originally posted by skullduggery
          not really.... i caught floyd off balance.... thats about it... demarcus corley did more to floyd than judah did... much more


          ofcourse a mayweather mafia member would say that...scroll to 1:05 lemme get a better view tho cuz the camera doesn't move...but ull hear the announcers talk about it

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          • BennyST
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            #65
            Originally posted by skullduggery
            one lucky punch+a ******ed fighter=judah's first loss
            There was no luck in that punch. It was the same punch he had just landed on him two seconds beforehand, but with much less impact. It was also perfectly set up. Unless a fighter swings without looking where he is throwing, or just wings a huge shot in the middle of a toe to toe battle, there are no lucky punches in boxing. He was calmly figuring Judah out, and y the end of the round landed one of what would have been many similar right hands to follow. It just happened that one was enough.

            But, if that punch was lucky, then I guess all Tszyu's wins were lucky. Especially all the ones he won with that same right hand shot.

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            • brently1979
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              #66
              Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
              You're right...

              after watching that short clip again. I would have liked Naddy to give Judah a moment to get himself together and try and beat the count on his own.

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                #67
                Originally posted by BennyST
                There was no luck in that punch. It was the same punch he had just landed on him two seconds beforehand, but with much less impact. It was also perfectly set up. Unless a fighter swings without looking where he is throwing, or just wings a huge shot in the middle of a toe to toe battle, there are no lucky punches in boxing. He was calmly figuring Judah out, and y the end of the round landed one of what would have been many similar right hands to follow. It just happened that one was enough.

                But, if that punch was lucky, then I guess all Tszyu's wins were lucky. Especially all the ones he won with that same right hand shot.

                It wasn't a lucky Punch. It was a well timed punched. It was bound to happend sooner or later in that fight.

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                  #68
                  prime kostya at 140 aint ricardo torres...one of those laser rights lands and cotto goes to sleep...

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                  • Mr. Philadel
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                    #69
                    at 140 KT puts Cotto to sleep.......at 147 Cotto breaks KT down and makes him quit......

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
                      Copying your material?

                      Mayweather and Cotto were both at 140 and never fought the best there......namely Kostya. Oscar tip-toed around him and Mosley skipped the division entirely.
                      Are you OK. When Mayweather entered the 140 division. Kostya had to fight two Mandatory’s when he was done. Hatton earned the fight at 140 insteas of PBF. PBF still wanted Kostya after he retired

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