So Cotto took more risks than a former Super Featherweight? Lol I love Boxingscene

[JAB5239]

Basically, this is all i want people to acknowledge. We all know that Cotto took more risks than Mayweather at WW, i'm not denying it. I'm saying a natural WW is supposed to take more risks than a former SFW at Welterweight.

Comparing the two at WW just makes Cotto look bad because Floyd did all his dirt at the lower weights already.

When a fighter moves up in weight, in his prime, he will always be expected to fight the top dogs. This is magnified when said fighter runs his mouth about being the best yet takes on less dangerous opponents for more money.

Nobody made Floyd move up to 147. If he is going to be there, fight the best or move back down, its that simple. This is what TRUE fans of the SPORT expect from ANY fighter.

[Kevin Jesus]

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When a fighter moves up in weight, in his prime, he will always be expected to fight the top dogs. This is magnified when said fighter runs his mouth about being the best yet takes on less dangerous opponents for more money.

Nobody made Floyd move up to 147. If he is going to be there, fight the best or move back down, its that simple. This is what TRUE fans of the SPORT expect from ANY fighter.

Like Tua said, Prime Castillo/Prime Undefeated Corrales>Cotto's resume. Those two alone presented more danger to anyone they faced in their prime than Quintana, Margarito, Mosley, Clottey...

Have fun saying that fighting 4-5 top guys in one division is riskier than fighting top guys guys in 5 different weight classes.

[Bushbaby]

Read all pages before I responded,great stuff from floyd fans really!!Margarito and Shane mosley,yeah the same one who beat a prime Oscar,were less of a challenge than Corrales or Castillo,wow,can I smoke the **** u guys do!!!I guess Baldomir can beat Mosley too huh,maybe Judah just had a bad night against Cotto!!Better yet,maybe Margarito did not really call floyd out to his face,it was camera tricks,maybe Marquez can beat any of the top 3 welterweights right now!!Under 140 floyd was brilliant,above,it's cough,cough,sputter,run!!!

[deanrw]

People have very short memories in this game. Floyd used to fight the best, but then become a money grubbing cheery picker.

Overall their careers are both very good, but everyone wants to know what Floyd has done for them lately, and the answer to that is "**** all".

No hate there folks, just facts. Cotto has been on a whirlwind of fighting tough opponents. Floyd has done nothing but look for easy money.

[Chuckguy]

Floyd Mayweather Jr:
27(out of 39 total bouts) fights at Super Featherweight including Taking on Genaro Hernandez with less than 20 pro bouts previously defeated only by a prime Oscar De La Hoya, Took the hype out of Angel Manfredy(B-Hop vs Pavlik style[even worse with a KO]), beat Gerena to defend his WBC SFW title(Gerena was 6-1 with the 1 loss coming from Genaro Hernandez in his last 7 bouts), being underdog against prime undefeated Diego Corrales, Jesus Chavez who only had 1 loss to a prime Julio Diaz


4 fights at Lightweight including 2 wins over the # 1 Lightweight prime Jose Luis Castillo, Decision over Vic Sosa(who Cotto was hyped for beating at 140), Phillip N'dou who had 30 KO's in 32 Bouts with only 1 loss,

3 bouts at Jr Welterweight including a fresher version of Corley who only had 2 losses, Bruseles who was training with Cotto for the fight and Cotto went on record saying they're confident blah blah blah TKO 8 i think with a body shot(called out Tszyu, Mosley, and De La Hoya [DLH wasn't interested, Mosley had a toothache, Tszyu then lost to Hatton]), beat Arturo Gatti for the WBC JWW title to become champ in 3 diff weight classes


5 fights at Welterweight, Mitchell(okay no threat), Zab Judah(top 5 WW atm just lost his Ring/Lineal title to Baldomir), Baldomir Ring/Lineal WW champ coming in with a 8 year win streak and was supposed to be too big for Floyd and was labeled a "WW threat" by many of the same ******s who are discrediting that win now including the biggest ****** of them all, Brian Kenny. Ricky Hatton was in his prime and undefeated and to a lot of boxing fans, Mayweather "had no chance" and people kept bringing up how it "took Floyd 24 rounds to beat Castillo" and "only 4 rounds for Hatton" and "Castillo has never been TKO'ed by a body shot" blah blah blah TKO 10...


1 bout at Jr Middleweight vs Oscar De La Hoya with Oscar picking everything but Floyd's trunks, and of course 154 being Oscar's best weight atm.



I'm not even going to diss Cotto...but I want to live to see the day that Cotto 'cherrypicks' his way up to Super Middleweight(which would be his 5th weight class)

Until then, keep comparing Cotto's WW reign to Floyd's WW stint. Be very proud to say that a natural WW took more risks than a former Super featherweight, because that's the least he can do.

They are talking about oppponents

its something everyone here can agree on except you floyd ball washers like you and most people in your mafia
just cause you go up in weight doesnt mean you take risks

lets see fight a come forward slow title holder or a non title holder prime WW or JW?
Ill go with the slow easy win

its that simple
no one is saying Cotto is greater or more skilled than floyd.
\Point blank he fights the tougher opponents hence takes more of a risk

come on it balck and white

[black.ink]

margarito , clottey and quintana are not more of a risk than corrales and castillo.

corrales was ranked higher than mayweather at the time they fought.

delahoya win evens out with mosley.

mayweather might not have fought the top guys at 140 and 147 but he fought better fighters than cotto has.

How does that work out? Mosley later batters Margarito into a heap, while DLH retires after a battering from Pac (yes i know, weightdrained etc...), but they cannot be compared.

[vandiar]

co-sign. good post. everyone is hating on floyd for fighting Juan Manuel for this COMEBACK FIGHT! I mean really, he is fighting a guy that is #2 P4P in the world right now. They are the same size. Juan started 4 pounds south of where PBF did. Yet everyone still hates on him, but it is okay for Cotto to fight Pacman?? Cotto is much bigger compared to Pac than PBF compared to Juan Manuel (PBF and Juan are practically the same size) yet noone is in an uproar about Cotto and Pac. It is ridiculous bias and double standards.

[madsweeney]

Floyd Mayweather Jr:
27(out of 39 total bouts) fights at Super Featherweight including Taking on Genaro Hernandez with less than 20 pro bouts previously defeated only by a prime Oscar De La Hoya, Took the hype out of Angel Manfredy(B-Hop vs Pavlik style[even worse with a KO]), beat Gerena to defend his WBC SFW title(Gerena was 6-1 with the 1 loss coming from Genaro Hernandez in his last 7 bouts), being underdog against prime undefeated Diego Corrales, Jesus Chavez who only had 1 loss to a prime Julio Diaz


4 fights at Lightweight including 2 wins over the # 1 Lightweight prime Jose Luis Castillo, Decision over Vic Sosa(who Cotto was hyped for beating at 140), Phillip N'dou who had 30 KO's in 32 Bouts with only 1 loss,

3 bouts at Jr Welterweight including a fresher version of Corley who only had 2 losses, Bruseles who was training with Cotto for the fight and Cotto went on record saying they're confident blah blah blah TKO 8 i think with a body shot(called out Tszyu, Mosley, and De La Hoya [DLH wasn't interested, Mosley had a toothache, Tszyu then lost to Hatton]), beat Arturo Gatti for the WBC JWW title to become champ in 3 diff weight classes


5 fights at Welterweight, Mitchell(okay no threat), Zab Judah(top 5 WW atm just lost his Ring/Lineal title to Baldomir), Baldomir Ring/Lineal WW champ coming in with a 8 year win streak and was supposed to be too big for Floyd and was labeled a "WW threat" by many of the same ******s who are discrediting that win now including the biggest ****** of them all, Brian Kenny. Ricky Hatton was in his prime and undefeated and to a lot of boxing fans, Mayweather "had no chance" and people kept bringing up how it "took Floyd 24 rounds to beat Castillo" and "only 4 rounds for Hatton" and "Castillo has never been TKO'ed by a body shot" blah blah blah TKO 10...


1 bout at Jr Middleweight vs Oscar De La Hoya with Oscar picking everything but Floyd's trunks, and of course 154 being Oscar's best weight atm.



I'm not even going to diss Cotto...but I want to live to see the day that Cotto 'cherrypicks' his way up to Super Middleweight(which would be his 5th weight class)

Until then, keep comparing Cotto's WW reign to Floyd's WW stint. Be very proud to say that a natural WW took more risks than a former Super featherweight, because that's the least he can do.

I don't think anyone takes credit away for what PBF did 130-135. 140 theres some question to his risks and definitely beyond that he didn't fight the biggest and the best but he ran his mouth as if he did.

Floyd fans seem to forget that most of the Floyd "haters" do respect what he did in the lower classes but they hate how he runs his mouth. If he put his gloves on and took on the toughest at WW he'd have alot more respect, even if he loses.

[Luis12]

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When a fighter moves up in weight, in his prime, he will always be expected to fight the top dogs. This is magnified when said fighter runs his mouth about being the best yet takes on less dangerous opponents for more money.

Nobody made Floyd move up to 147. If he is going to be there, fight the best or move back down, its that simple. This is what TRUE fans of the SPORT expect from ANY fighter.

very good post.

People have very short memories in this game. Floyd used to fight the best, but then become a money grubbing cheery picker.

Overall their careers are both very good, but everyone wants to know what Floyd has done for them lately, and the answer to that is "**** all".

No hate there folks, just facts. Cotto has been on a whirlwind of fighting tough opponents. Floyd has done nothing but look for easy money.

100% correct

Like Tua said, Prime Castillo/Prime Undefeated Corrales>Cotto's resume. Those two alone presented more danger to anyone they faced in their prime than Quintana, Margarito, Mosley, Clottey...

Have fun saying that fighting 4-5 top guys in one division is riskier than fighting top guys guys in 5 different weight classes.

at 130 yes...at 147 no. cotto would eat castillo/corrales at 140-147

[madsweeney]

co-sign. good post. everyone is hating on floyd for fighting Juan Manuel for this COMEBACK FIGHT! I mean really, he is fighting a guy that is #2 P4P in the world right now. They are the same size. Juan started 4 pounds south of where PBF did. Yet everyone still hates on him, but it is okay for Cotto to fight Pacman?? Cotto is much bigger compared to Pac than PBF compared to Juan Manuel (PBF and Juan are practically the same size) yet noone is in an uproar about Cotto and Pac. It is ridiculous bias and double standards.

Really?!? JMM and PBF the same size!?!