Tommy Hearns vs Paul Williams at 147

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I knew you would agree with me.

I'm surprised people actually think Williams would knock Hearns out.

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1.) Who's been able to smother Tommy's right hand in the past, that makes you believe Williams could do the same? Even Hagler ate them, but he was lucky enough to have the beard to take them.

2.) Forrest isn't a slick boxer. He's more of a boxer/puncher hybrid than anything.

3.) What about Margarito and Cotto? Are you using that as an example of a brawler beating a slick boxer? Again ; Cotto is not a slick boxer. He's another example of a boxer/puncher. A slick boxer would be somebody like Pernell Whitaker, or Ray Leonard.

5.) Cotto/Paulie? Again, not a brawler vs. slick boxer. That's a boxer/puncher vs. a straight boxer. (With creampuffs for hands, no less.)

Who wins these two matches??

Sergio Mora vs. Kelly Pavlik

Mayweather vs. Williams

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I'm surprised people actually think Williams would knock Hearns out.

Williams stamina..speed..workrate and power...and add in the fact that Hearns is also EASY to hit and has a bad chin='s a Williams KO

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I didnt say he was stronger....I said at WW he was as strong.

And i have no doubts in my mind that Williams beats both Pav and AA.

Hearns doesnt have the legs to give paul angles to cut his workrate in half....Tommy would try to FIGHT him rather then outbox him....and that plays intop Williams favor....Williams throws more...hes bigger....taller..has the longer reach...has the better chin.

I just cant pick Hearns in ths fight.

Well let's see Williams proves it first, lets see him take a flush shot from a big middleweight puncher and see how he reacts.

No, Hearns had lateral movement, he knew how to use his legs to move side to side and to get into position to throw his punches, especially the right hand, Hearns would probably elect to outbox Williams from the outside and make Williams reach for him and wait for Williams to leave himself open, which Williams does a lot. Once Williams leaves himself open, Hearns would set his feet and unload that right hand which would land flush because 1. Williams gets square, 2. Williams would be reaching in, leaving his chin exposed and 3. Williams is a southpaw which means there's a good angle for straight right hands landing.

And Hearns would probably work Williams' body over, he had a wicked left hook to the body.

Also, the stances could play a factor in this fight, apart from Hagler, Hearns rarely if ever had trouble against southpaws if I remember correctly.

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Hearns by TKO...

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Personally I think Hearns would be able to disrupt Pwill's workrate. Not necessarily because of angles or outboxing or whatnot but because for such a big guyWilliams doesnt always use his size effectively and tends to smother himself sometimes. Hearns on the other hand has that long flicking jab which is very tricky and could make williams think twice about opening up.

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Williams is more or less a straight ahead infighter, and with Manny "I make all of my fighters throw 5000 jabs a day" Steward in Tommy's corner, the plan is for Tommy to keep Williams off balance by throwing 60-70 of his patented come-from-anywhere flicker jabs per round. If Tommy follows that plan, Williams loses the early rounds on points, get frustrated, loosens up his guard while trying to get inside...and then BAM! Tommy starts to land the chopping right and it's downhill for Williams.

However, Tommy is the more versatile fighter, but at times his heart gets the best of him and he bucks the gameplan in favor of trying to brawl his way to a KO. If that happens, I don't think his hands or his jaw withstand Paul's Punishment and he gets KOd in a war.

Hearns has the advantage, but I wouldn't go anywhere near this fight ********-wise.

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I didnt say he was stronger....I said at WW he was as strong.

And i have no doubts in my mind that Williams beats both Pav and AA.

Hearns doesnt have the legs to give paul angles to cut his workrate in half....Tommy would try to FIGHT him rather then outbox him....and that plays intop Williams favor....Williams throws more...hes bigger....taller..has the longer reach...has the better chin.

I just cant pick Hearns in ths fight.

Hearns was a very underrated boxer, and he's capable of outboxing Williams. But if he did decide to fight Paul, that only spells more trouble for Paul with the way he leaves himself wide open during exchanges.

Who wins these two matches??

Sergio Mora vs. Kelly Pavlik

Mayweather vs. Williams

Mora could beat Pavlik so long as he stuck to his gameplan. But he's shown a tendency to stray a bit from that in the past (Forrest II), so I'd pick Kelly but I wouldn't bet a wooden nickel on it.

Mayweather would beat Williams by decision. No doubt in my mind.

There was a time when I thought that Paul's freakish advantages in height and reach would easily win him this one.....

....Then I saw Carlos Quintana (only 1 and a half inches taller than Floyd) beat Paul to the punch and school him all night long in their first fight.

That pretty much sealed it up for me.

Don't get me wrong, Paul still has a chance with his advantages. But after the schooling he got from a lesser boxer than Floyd in Quintana, his chances got cut in half, at least.

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Personally I think Hearns would be able to disrupt Pwill's workrate. Not necessarily because of angles or outboxing or whatnot but because for such a big guyWilliams doesnt always use his size effectively and tends to smother himself sometimes. Hearns on the other hand has that long flicking jab which is very tricky and could make williams think twice about opening up.

We wrote the same thing at the same time. That would definitely be Hearns' plan.

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Hearns was a very underrated boxer, and he's capable of outboxing Williams. But if he did decide to fight Paul, that only spells more trouble for Paul with the way he leaves himself wide open during exchanges.

Disagree with this. In an inside battle Paul's uppercuts are sharper and he throws more precise combinations than Hearns did. Hearns kinda just went all out and swung like a madman when his switch flipped.