Who is more skilled? Wladimir or Mikkel?

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  • street bully
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    #81
    Good night ladies.

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    • S A M U R A I
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      #82
      Originally posted by street bully
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      • Enayze
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        #83
        Originally posted by Jay Em Em
        Again cuz' the division is weak. Besides you keep bragging about how unhittable Wlad is. Its because he takes no chances.

        Kessler's best win is actually Librado Andrade. 12-0 shutout. That was impressive. And he was actually in the fight w/ Calzaghe until about the 8th round when he got caught with that body shot.

        Kessler can do everything better than Wlad especially put more than two punches together.
        So what you are telling me by your first line is that Wlad doesnt have a better defense because he doesnt take any chances? Since when are fighters obliged to take chances in a sport that preaches the art of hitting and not getting hit? Im sorry just because you might not like his style does not negate the FACT that he has the best defense on the basis that he never gets hit. The man does his job, and if the opposing fighter cannot cut the distance then it is not Wlads fault. I much rather fight like Wlad and leave the sport healthy and wealthy than be an Ali and wind up with Parkinsons.

        As for saying Kessler can do everything better than Wlad is down right delusional. The man cant do anything better than Wlad other than take a hit in a Light Heavyweight division, but I am sure that would change if he would step up to heavyweight....

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        • Addition
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          #84
          Wlad nuthuggers not happy

          I thought the question was who's more skilled not who's the more dominant or has a better resume.

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          • Enayze
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            #85
            Originally posted by The Drogba
            Lennox fucking Lewis
            Lennox Lewis doesnt dominate fighters like Wlad does. He had close calls with Holyfield, Vitali, and Mercer.

            There isnt a single opponent that Wlad did not utterly destroy in his conquests (Excluding losses of course).

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            • Enayze
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              #86
              Originally posted by Addition
              Wlad nuthuggers not happy

              I thought the question was who's more skilled not who's the more dominant or has a better resume.
              Wlad is more skilled... Watch his fights with Mercer, Jefferson, and Brewster for clean highlights.

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              • Enayze
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                #87
                Originally posted by BattlingNelson
                Define worthy please. Kessler ko'ed several champions: Siaca, Lucas, Beyer. Travelled the globe to outpoint Mundine despite a bad back and outclassed Andrade who practically ko'ed Bute. Regarding Calzaghe Kessler didn't spar before that fight because of a broken right hand. He fought the fight with a broken hand!

                It was surgically repaired afterwards.

                Yeah that is no one's fault but Kesslers, and I find that excuse to be BS no one fights with a broken hand buddy. Haye pulled out with a strained back, and you expect me to believe Kessler fought with a broken hand? Either way it would have made no difference, Calzaghe dominated him from round 1, I remember the fight clear as day.

                Name me one opponent who outclassed Wlad over 12 rounds.... I'l be waiting forever until it actually happens.

                As for traveling around the world to fight fighters, what do you think Wlad has been doing for the majority of his career? The man is from Ukraine fighting in Germany, England, and United States.

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                • The Drogba
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                  #88
                  Originally posted by Enayze
                  Lennox Lewis doesnt dominate fighters like Wlad does. He had close calls with Holyfield, Vitali, and Mercer.

                  There isnt a single opponent that Wlad did not utterly destroy in his conquests (Excluding losses of course).
                  Of course Wlad has dominated his opponent more than Lewis has since they are lesser opponent. Name me one fighter Wladimir has beaten that is good as Holyfield/Vitali/Mercer/Tyson

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                  • Silencers
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                    #89
                    This is a hard question to answer. They both have the same weaknesses, don't fight well going backwards, Kessler isn't the most adaptable fighter around, Klitschko hasn't really been forced to adapt in a while. Kessler takes more chances though and shows more of his offense, Klitschko normally only shows what he needs to show, namely a jab, a right hand and an occassional hook. They're both really well skilled fighters and it's hard to pick on over the other, I can see why people pick Kessler though because as I said, he shows more in his fights.

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                    • Enayze
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                      #90
                      Originally posted by The Drogba
                      Of course Wlad has dominated his opponent more than Lewis has since they are lesser opponent. Name me one fighter Wladimir has beaten that is good as Holyfield/Vitali/Mercer/Tyson
                      The best fighters you mentioned out of the 4 are Vitali and Mercer. With that being said Vitali was beating Lewis with one eye, until the fight got stopped based on a cut, and Mercer arguably won his fight against Lewis depending on whose score card you're reading. While Wlad dominated Mercer and was the first to knock him out....
                      As for Tyson the man was a living punching bag by the time he fought Lewis, and Holyfield was a 35 year old who was running on fumes since his fights with Rid**** Bowe, Michael Moorer, and of course Mike Tyson. Holyfield was actually seen as past his prime by the time he already fought Tyson, none the less Lewis.

                      Lewis best achievments based on the quality of fighters were

                      Mercer
                      Golota
                      Ruddock and
                      Tua
                      (Im not listing Vitali, because he would have probably lost that fight if it werent for the cut)

                      Tyson and Holyfield were past there best and would have been beaten by Wlad as well if he had faced them at that time interval.

                      With that being said Lewis probably defeats Wlad, but that still does not change the fact that Wlad destroys his opponents in a more dominant fashion.

                      Wlad however has defeated many fighters in their prime a list that boasts of Byrd, Peter, Brock, Ibragimov, Chagaev, and Mc'Cline

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