Cheating History: Roy Looks For Path Of Least Resistance

[Sir Tom Jones]

Calzaghe, Hopkins and Jones Jr were great boxers from this era. period.

[Allucard]

Calzaghe, Hopkins and Jones Jr were great boxers from this era. period.

sorry dude, if you put zaghe you will have to put Toney, who is certainly an ATG, mosley, jones, hopkins, mayweather, forrest, tarver, cotto, chad dawson too, why not? he's half joe's age and already has on his record both guys who actually beat prime and close to prime jones (which according to joe calzaghe atg standards grants them atg status as well). you can't really say joe calzaghe accomplished more than any of these fighters have.

[hookoutofhell]

personally i think the aarticle looks upon jones accomplishments pre-ruiz slightly harshly.

jones faced top contenders and beat them, he fought everyone that he had to and won.

agree that the CW ply of making the winner a 5 weight world champ is slightly cheap but i think some of the criticsm is a bit excessive

[RoyJonesJrp4pno1]

As a Roy fan did Roy fight bums sometimes, he sure did. He shouldn't have been wasting his time fighting Glen Kelley or Richard Frazier. However he beat Toney, Nard, Ruiz, McCallum, Griffen, Tarver, Reggie Johnson, Gonzales, Tito and Harding. He also beat some other good fighters and made them look terrible. Also he did fight Calzaghe and Glen Johnson. His resume is underated and his skills were second 2 none.

[BattlingNelson]

Makes sense why they never fought then. If DM was great he would have tried his best to fight Mr. P4P.

He did, but was ignored (bolded part below):

** At 175, DM is superior by record. He was the first to lift the titles off of Hill and fought a lot of the same guys Roy did with at least as good of success as Roy.

I like to point to the Harmon/Hall/Griffin fights when both were considered still at peak. DM whacks out Harmon a little earlier than Roy did, and got to Hall twice around the same time as Roy, and got to Griffin a little later, but never dropping a bout to Montell, an indication of the approximate danger each represented to the other.

DM padded record with early WBO title matches, but he's also got some bigger names aside from the overlap like getting to Hill 1st coming off his Maske win and a Thradzi coming off wins over Toney and Scully.

I meant to also include Rocchigiana. He wasn't the fighter he was, but he's a name in the books.

DM was considered the "lineal" champ, whatever that means and traveled to Roy's hometown to drum up the match, but Roy and HBO pretty much ignored him. Odd since he was simultaneously coming up on tying Rocky's 49-0 record and Joe's 25-0 title defense record, both numerically superior to Roy's LH record at the time.
Seeing as how the Germans could have easily have arranged the split loss to Gonzalez to be a split win if they were as dishonest as is claimed, Roy really did lose out on a huge opportunity because of his drunken ego that HBO enabled.

Of course the usual dummies are gonna interpret this as me claiming DM is the better fighter, but that's the price they pay for wearing Roy's used jock straps as nose masks. He was the better LH by record and after a period of he and Roy ignoring each other, DM made the moves to make the fight happen.

[MANGLER]

RJ owned all in his prime. **** this ****.

[BattlingNelson]

RJ owned all in his prime. **** this ****.

He did. Still some names are missing.

[Chase8400]

He did, but was ignored (bolded part below):

Nope......nice try. It's well documented that he was asking for a fight in Germany knowing damn well Jones was going nowhere. If he were so confident he would have fought here under the P4P champs rules. Simple as that. We need go no further. Same reason Joe C. wasn't considered a serious opponent until he held the cards.