Naz vs Kelley - round 2

[PittyPat]

What would you guys score a round for fighter A being dominated a whole round, but get's a lucky punch near the end of the round to knock down fighter B?

See that's the grey area thing. To me - just to use this fight as an example again, but there are others - Clottey had done enough to secure the opening round against Cotto, but then gets floored with 10 seconds to spare. I had to score it 10-8 for Cotto because of that. But if we're going by the logic of some of the posts in here, Clottey should've been awarded a 9-9 round because he'd won it. That never happens, though.

So what's the deal here?

[Ray*]

If fighter B wins the round or the round is even what then? Do judges take into account only who is winning at the end of a round or do they score the entire round hmm?

Then it depends on the individual judge to score it the way they see fit, Me personally would love to see a round scored evenly in boxing.

[Ray*]

See that's the grey area thing. To me - just to use this fight as an example again, but there are others - Clottey had done enough to secure the opening round against Cotto, but then gets floored with 10 seconds to spare. I had to score it 10-8 for Cotto because of that. But if we're going by the logic of some of the posts in here, Clottey should've been awarded a 9-9 round because he'd won it. That never happens, though.

So what's the deal here?

The problem is a Knockdown alway seem to overshadow everything else in scoring a round, If a fighter is winning a round overwhelmingly and got KD then it should be a 9-9 round not a 10-8 round imo.

[PittyPat]

The problem is a Knockdown alway seem to overshadow everything else in scoring a round, If a fighter is winning a round overwhelmingly and got KD then it should be a 9-9 round not a 10-8 round imo.

Tricky stuff. That's always crossed my mind, but instinctively I've always scored a round 10-8 even if the knocked down fighter dominated the round. It's not in the least bit fair, but I've never known any different. Plus, it eliminates any subjectivity on who may have won the round - that is, whoever gets knocked down loses it automatically. Not fair, but at least it's clear.

10-10 rounds I completely disagree with, though. I know it's tempting to use that system in close fights like Corrales-Castillo or Gatti-Ward, but in the end I reckon one should just pick whoever looked the best in the round - whether it has to be on the most miniscule of things, such as who went forward or backwards. Scoring 10-10 just invites laziness. And Merchant's system of using 10-8 against a fighter who didn't do enough (yet wasn't knocked down) is also ******.

[ThePunchingBag]

See that's the grey area thing. To me - just to use this fight as an example again, but there are others - Clottey had done enough to secure the opening round against Cotto, but then gets floored with 10 seconds to spare. I had to score it 10-8 for Cotto because of that. But if we're going by the logic of some of the posts in here, Clottey should've been awarded a 9-9 round because he'd won it. That never happens, though.

So what's the deal here?

Technically in a 10 point "must" system an even round must be scored as a 10-10. So even though logic dictates 9-9 or 9-8, judges have no choice but to give the round winner a 10 unless you have a point deducted. Even if both fighters get knocked down in a single round the scores would be a 10-8 favoring the winner or in your example cotto would be seen to have won the round or at least evened it up 10-10 with the KD. Their are apparently quite a few problems with boxing's scoring the more you look into it, which explain why there are so many weird/controversial decisions.

[iecen]

10-9 for someone before a knockdown accurs
knockdown(lets say the guy winning the round) = 9-9
knockdown(on guy that was losing the round)= 9-8

simple

just to be clear if Clottey was winning round 1 and Cotto knocks him down then the round should be 9-8 for Cotto not 10-8

[PittyPat]

just to be clear if Clottey was winning round 1 and Cotto knocks him down then the round should be 9-8 for Cotto not 10-8

Damn... Another new method. :shk1: