Naz vs Kelley - round 2

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  • PittyPat
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    #11
    Ergh. Never mind. I think I've confused myself over this stuff now. Too early in the morning, anyway.
    Last edited by PittyPat; 06-23-2009, 05:19 AM.

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    • ThePunchingBag
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      #12
      Originally posted by PittyPat
      That doesn't make any sense, though. One guy's winning the round 10-8, but then goes down himself. Hence, he should also lose 2 points and wind up level with his opponent 8-8. Neither won the round.

      I mean, you get 9-9 if the round winner is deducted a point. So why not an 8-8 for a double knockdown?
      I was thinking of it this way. If nas gets knocked down the round becomes 10-8 because not only is kelly winning but nas hit the canvas. So it's -1 point for the knockdown and -1 for losing the round. If nas knocks kelly down than shouldn't he get a point for achieving it? So then he gets a +1 for the knockdown while kelly gets a -1. That's a 9-9 if there is no clear winner at the end of the round than it's an even round. My logic is based off of the reasoning that you can be Knockdown and still win the round through a comeback effort making the round a 10-9 or a 9-9 depending on the situation.

      So in simpler terms when a double knockdown is scored there are 2 separate things being scored at the end of the round. The KDs and the winner of the round. They don't always go hand in hand.
      Last edited by ThePunchingBag; 06-23-2009, 05:26 AM.

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      • Chr0nic
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        #13
        10-9 for someone before a knockdown accurs
        knockdown(lets say the guy winning the round) = 9-9
        knockdown(on guy that was losing the round)= 9-8

        simple

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          #14
          Originally posted by PittyPat
          That doesn't make any sense, though. One guy's winning the round 10-8, but then goes down himself. Hence, he should also lose 2 points and wind up level with his opponent 8-8. Neither won the round.

          I mean, you get 9-9 if the round winner is deducted a point. So why not an 8-8 for a double knockdown?
          good point
          i'd have to agree with you now

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            #15
            Originally posted by PittyPat
            So a second knockdown, which by rights should also mean the deduction of 2 points from the original round winner, nullifies the whole thing? That is some seriously dumb ****.

            If both guys end up on the floor, neither of them should be entitled to anything more than 8 points on the scorecard. Otherwise what's the point in a knockdown ruling at all?
            Originally posted by abdiel2k3
            u guys r real idiots
            its a 9-8 round
            when a knockdown occurs
            the person that got dropped loses a point
            buttttt
            someone still won the round
            a knockdown doesnt mean u automaticly win the round
            u can score a kd but lose the round


            If fighter A was winning the round against fighter B then its automatically a 10-9 round, If both fighters score a knock down then it one single point deducted from 10-9 which means fighter A wins the round 9-8.....simple.

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              #16
              Originally posted by raycorey

              If fighter A was winning the round against fighter B then its automatically a 10-9 round, If both fighters score a knock down then it one single point deducted from 10-9 which means fighter A wins the round 9-8.....simple.
              If fighter B wins the round or the round is even what then? Do judges take into account only who is winning at the end of a round or do they score the entire round hmm?
              Last edited by ThePunchingBag; 06-23-2009, 05:45 AM.

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              • PittyPat
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                #17
                Ah, I think I geddit now.

                But then, since for example Clottey won the first round against Cotto (IMO), doesn't that by rights entitle him to a 9-9 round since he'd won it with only 10 seconds to spare? This is some grey area stuff, surely.

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                  #18
                  Who gives a f**K... Kelley got KTFO....
                  Only problem with this fight, was that it didn't last long enough....
                  I actually wanted Kelley to shut up the little bastard....

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                    #19
                    I'd go with the 9-8 score on the basis that someone won the round, but get's a deduction for being knocked down.


                    What would you guys score a round for fighter A being dominated a whole round, but get's a lucky punch near the end of the round to knock down fighter B?

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by black.ink
                      I'd go with the 9-8 score on the basis that someone won the round, but get's a deduction for being knocked down.


                      What would you guys score a round for fighter A being dominated a whole round, but get's a lucky punch near the end of the round to knock down fighter B?
                      9-9...

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