Chagaev's weak performance

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  • joe strong
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    #41
    so what he beat savon in amateurs.means nothing in the pros.hepb,inactivity,& too many tough injuries.he's done

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    • Dan...
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      #42
      Originally posted by Machine Gunz
      Wlad couldn't KO a sitting duck like Chagaev, Chagaev was there to be KO'd from round 2, Chagaev was plodding forward with a high guard rarely throwing a punch, Wlad was teeing off but still couldn't convincingly KO Chageav at any stage

      i don't believe Haye would just stand in front of Wlad, he would get angles, Haye does have good, fast footwork
      Haye has one advantage over Wladimir - speed. Wladimir's massive edge in terms of power and technical ability will overcome that easily, not to mention his massive physical advantages.

      I'm not sure if you have watched much of Haye. He is exciting, yes, but he has struggled with some fairly ordinary fighters. He has certainly done nothing to make me believe he is able to compete with a world class heavyweight like Wladimir.

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      • MANGLER
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        #43
        Chag tried, he just got owned. Pretty simple.

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        • JACK D. RIPPER
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          #44
          Originally posted by mangler
          Chag tried, he just got owned. Pretty simple.
          I disagree mang. I think one of two things. Either he was so hurtin' for cash and took this fight to make up for the lost payday w/ Valuev or he was never that good to begin with.

          The thought of Wladdy just being that good is the most remote possibility in my mind.

          I mean think about it. Tony Thompson fought better than Chagaev. That tells me Chagaev was an overrated paper champ, in recess no less, all along.

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          • MANGLER
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            #45
            Originally posted by Jay Em Em
            I disagree mang. I think one of two things. Either he was so hurtin' for cash and took this fight to make up for the lost payday w/ Valuev or he was never that good to begin with.

            The thought of Wladdy just being that good is the most remote possibility in my mind.

            I mean think about it. Tony Thompson fought better than Chagaev. That tells me Chagaev was an overrated paper champ, in recess no less, all along.

            Oh I ain't sayin Chag is gr8, just that he didn't lie down. Dude fought his ass off, but stood no chance. He has a good chin and was unbeaten, so I'd call him a good fighter, whatever that means in the present HW division. All the guys who face Wlad get slapped around like that. Chag got it worse cuz he's also much shorter, which is where his ridiculous White Tyson name must come from.

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            • Machine Gunz
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              #46
              Originally posted by Dan...
              Haye has one advantage over Wladimir - speed. Wladimir's massive edge in terms of power and technical ability will overcome that easily, not to mention his massive physical advantages.

              I'm not sure if you have watched much of Haye. He is exciting, yes, but he has struggled with some fairly ordinary fighters. He has certainly done nothing to make me believe he is able to compete with a world class heavyweight like Wladimir.
              i have seen just about all of Haye's fights, last time Klitschko fought an aggressive, fast handed power puncher he was KO'd, he couldn't handle Sanders who went after him and worked his way in close by pressuring Klitschko, then sent him to sleep, Haye will do the same

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              • NakiFan
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                #47
                Theres no one out there to fight wlad with "the x factor" you know, that litle somethin somethin that takes u to the next level, they are all painfully average

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                • Drunk Punch
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                  #48
                  Wlad is the king of jab, his enormous reach just keeps whoever he fights totally trapped at the range that suits Kiltschko. It's not pretty to watch but its proved to be a ruthlessly efficient style.

                  I really wonder how Haye could get past that job, let alone the huge size and weight advantage Wlad has. I guess he would have to do a Tyson style rampage and just go straight under and through Wlad's guard to stand any chance.

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                  • NakiFan
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                    #49
                    Excactly, Hayes only option is to bumrush and hope something gets through

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                    • Yessum
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                      #50
                      a bizzare performance. most boxing scribes are staying away from this.

                      always moving to his right. right into wlads killer left.
                      it was as if he betted on himself on the o/u.
                      pathetic.
                      still think it wouldn't take much to get this clown out of there. but the shape this hvwt circus is in.........
                      bizzare

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