Will Wladimir Klitschko break Joe Lous' 25 title defenses record?

[knn]

Wlad outweighs his average opponent by 15-20 pounds

Stop inventing things.

Wlad's average weight is 234, his opponents' is ALSO 234.
Wlad has been outweighted in 25 fights.

Now let's check Muhammad Ali:
Ali's average weight: 211
Ali's opponents' average weight: 204.
Ali has been outweighted only in 17 fights.

George Foreman has been outweighted in only 8 fights.

Thus it's EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT YOU CLAIM. It's Ali who won because of outweighing his opponents.

But I bet you would NEVER EVER have the urge to complain about Ali or Foreman even although it was them who were outweighing their opponents.

[Silverfox]

That's too bad. How is the amateur program?

I don't see much happening. I know that we have an enthusiastic amateur association, but not much press coverage. Therefore, we only hear of things if a fighter explodes on the scene. In any event, the promoters tend to push them too soon...no real formative grooming...in it for a quick buck. Years back, they would have to fight through local ranks, then international, then commonwealth. Today's guys are not fighters in the old mold!! Sorry to say & see!

IMO, there is far too much money on offer and initially, no real pain for gain. Let's face it, there have been quite a few palookas who fluked a big payday. I mean really...who was that wanker that Cotto destroyed before the Clottey fight? Disgraceful really.

[Heru]

1) Wait 5-10 years until Klitschko retires.
2) Wait 5-15 years until the last opponent of Klitschko retires
3) Wait 5 years until they are inducted.

What's there to laugh about?


Hater's comment.


That Chuvalo is Ali's 3rd biggest win is MY OPINION. Of course you can debate it.


Now is Klitschko's prime. Not years ago.


Yawn. Don't get me started downgrading Ali's opponents' opponents. Ali would look even WORSE.

And don't post lies like "hepatitis ridden" or some "Rahman quitting".

How easy what is? You delivered 1) your biased opinions about the future 2) lies 3) irrelevancies (about overweight Toney)

You know little to nothing of what you're talking about.

Nobody from Wladimir Klitschko's current resume will be inducted to the Hall of Fame. Do some research hater.

Chris Byrd has the best case and he will not make it. Hasim Rahman will not make it either. Do some research on who's in the Hall of Fame compare it to them and they fall short. Better yet, ask a boxing writer with a Hall of Fame vote.

Go read some of the many the reports before the fight about Chagaev's hepatitis, the Association of Professional Ringside Physicians put out a statement days before the fight to stop it from happening. Since you sound like you don't watch any fights, go watch Rahman-Toney II so you can see Rahman quit and then comeback and apologies for saying I lied. Hater.

[#1Assassin]

You know little to nothing of what you're talking about.

Nobody from Wladimir Klitschko's current resume will be inducted to the Hall of Fame. Do some research hater.

Chris Byrd has the best case and he will not make it. Hasim Rahman will not make it either. Do some research on who's in the Hall of Fame compare it to them and they fall short. Better yet, ask a boxing writer with a Hall of Fame vote.

Go read some of the many the reports before the fight about Chagaev's hepatitis, the Association of Professional Ringside Physicians put out a statement days before the fight to stop it from happening. Since you sound like you don't watch any fights, go watch Rahman-Toney II so you can see Rahman quit and then comeback and apologies for saying I lied. Hater.

chris byrd will most likely be in the HOF, aswell as both the klitschko brothers ofcourse. other than that i have no clue who on wlads resume would make it. not rahman, and its not like wlad deserves credit for beating him at this stage anyways. byrd is the only one, who knn would discredit as a Lt.HW if he was one of alis oponents.

[knn]

Nobody from Wladimir Klitschko's current resume will be inducted to the Hall of Fame. Do some research hater.

Yes, yes.... how could I dare to argue against someone who knows already what will happen in the next 20-30 years.

Go read some of the many the reports before the fight about Chagaev's hepatitis, the Association of Professional Ringside Physicians put out a statement days before the fight

That statement was based on nothing but newspaper reports. US doctors didn't have any blood samples. Chagaev has the antigen, and it's doubtful whether he ever had the illness. Moreover it's about Hepatitis B and not C.

go watch Rahman-Toney II so you can see Rahman quit and then comeback and apologies for saying I lied.

Stop inventing things. Rahman vs Toney was a NC due to an unintentional cut before round 5.

So far I caught you inventing, spinning, telling falsehoods, biasing and hating. Is there any reason why you are a valuable discussion partner?

[RightCross94]

It was not thicker back then. That's just a myth perpetuated by haters and good-old-time-nostalgists.

Just the fact alone that a guy with Parkinson (Ali) fights a chinny featherfisty 6-0 bum (Spinks) for the heavyweight world title shows you the real state of the HW division in the 70ies.

This is OBVIOUSLY and OBJECTIVELY so much worse than nowadays division that I don't need to elaborate.

I have yet to make up my mind what is actually worse: That a 6-0 bum WINS against a champ with Parkinson, or that the Parkinson champ wins against the bum in the rematch.

Stop fooling yourself about the great state of the 70ies. It was merely a hyped up local US contest.

just the fact alone that a guy with hep B (chagaev) fight a guys who was TKO'd by ross purrity (30-21-3!) for the HW title shows you the real state of the HW division in the 00's

two can play at your ******ed little game

[MANGLER]

No. He'll retire before he gets that far.

[J Mac]

It was not thicker back then. That's just a myth perpetuated by haters and good-old-time-nostalgists.

Just the fact alone that a guy with Parkinson (Ali) fights a chinny featherfisty 6-0 bum (Spinks) for the heavyweight world title shows you the real state of the HW division in the 70ies.

This is OBVIOUSLY and OBJECTIVELY so much worse than nowadays division that I don't need to elaborate.

I have yet to make up my mind what is actually worse: That a 6-0 bum WINS against a champ with Parkinson, or that the Parkinson champ wins against the bum in the rematch.

Stop fooling yourself about the great state of the 70ies. It was merely a hyped up local US contest.

You show a total lack of respect by consistently refering to ALI as the 'Parkinson Champ' for that alone you are coming across as a total prick, who is distorting and twisting afcts and figures to discredit a legend who had the guts to get in the ring and fight everyone there was to fight!

[knn]

You show a total lack of respect by consistently refering to ALI as the 'Parkinson Champ'

You are free to watch Ali (with Parkinson) vs Spinks (6-0 bum) 20 times in a row.

for that alone you are coming across as a total prick, who is distorting and twisting afcts and figures to discredit a legend who had the guts to get in the ring and fight everyone there was to fight!

Yes, Ali didn't duck anybody. That is true. I never claimed he ducked anyone. For that he can be honored. But 6-0 is 6-0.

[TEDetc]

I am sure any historian would say that the era today isn't much worse or perhaps even slightly better than the Holmes era, the the pre-Tyson era and the pre-Louis era.

Topic: I doubt Wlad making 25 defenses. He is like 33 or 34 years old and has had a lot of fights.

Todays era isn't even close to the Holmes era.