Roach's Weight Demand Could Collapse Pacquiao vs. Cotto

[S A M U R A I]

if it is up to roach the weight will be 140,same day weight in for cotto's belt, purse 80-20 and the fight in phillipines.

Again, someone making Roach out to be some evil bastard.





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[Dorruel]

Good post.



First of all, I think you ought to dead this "*******" ****, it's making you look cheap and I can't respect you nor take you seriously.

Secondly, I, like Mr. Pink, don't give a crap about the weight. There is no falling back, I'll be betting on Manny winning regardless of weight. Don't be painting all Pacquiao fans with the same brush!

awwww did i hurt your feelings. *******
btw i can care less if you take me serious or not who the **** are you

[Luis12]

and who said cotto will be drained at 143lbs? cotto's natural weight is 140lbs. going down 5 pounds is no big deal for him but his camp want everything to turn in their favor. they should remember that pac's first fought at 106 pounds.

pacman is naturally smaller than cotto and a 143 pound catchweight is no way at his advantage. pacman's only advantage against the puerto rican is his speed and nothing more. if cotto wants to prove his worth as a welterweight, and to validate his controversial win against clottey he should agree to a fight with pacman at 143 pounds.

i dont believe cotto is physically drained at 143 lbs.

but even if the fight is at 147lbs, the outcome is the same.

pacman will demolish him worse than hatton. that's for sure!

i'm pretty sure, because of ur ****** comment, that u don't know the history of cotto doing the 140pds

[WhoreUs]

I think Roach is protecting his investment and knows that Cotto above 143 has his way with Manny. This is a tool to back out of a fight and not blame Manny for having this fight revoked by Cotto's camp. In other words Roach realizes that Cotto could win this fight at full health. 2nd with Floyd postponing JMM fight; they can now have Floyd vs Manny for the p4p #1 at stake which is a bigger fight than a Floyd vs Manny (who just lost to Cotto.)

pac-cotto would already be signed if it wasn't for this possibility.

arum is just waiting for floyd.

if floyd doesn't give in to arum's terms , cotto and pac will still make him money.

[letsgobrady]

and who said cotto will be drained at 143lbs? cotto's natural weight is 140lbs. going down 5 pounds is no big deal for him but his camp want everything to turn in their favor. they should remember that pac's first fought at 106 pounds.

pacman is naturally smaller than cotto and a 143 pound catchweight is no way at his advantage. pacman's only advantage against the puerto rican is his speed and nothing more. if cotto wants to prove his worth as a welterweight, and to validate his controversial win against clottey he should agree to a fight with pacman at 143 pounds.

i dont believe cotto is physically drained at 143 lbs.

but even if the fight is at 147lbs, the outcome is the same.

pacman will demolish him worse than hatton. that's for sure!

you must not have seen miguels last couple of fights at 140 where he was lookin like a weight drained fighter and yea manny started at 106 but he was 16 year old i'm pretty sure most fighters would weigh less at the age of 16 compared tothe age of 19 or 20

[Primal Instinx]

and who said cotto will be drained at 143lbs? cotto's natural weight is 140lbs. going down 5 pounds is no big deal for him but his camp want everything to turn in their favor. they should remember that pac's first fought at 106 pounds.

pacman is naturally smaller than cotto and a 143 pound catchweight is no way at his advantage. pacman's only advantage against the puerto rican is his speed and nothing more. if cotto wants to prove his worth as a welterweight, and to validate his controversial win against clottey he should agree to a fight with pacman at 143 pounds.

i dont believe cotto is physically drained at 143 lbs.

but even if the fight is at 147lbs, the outcome is the same.

pacman will demolish him worse than hatton. that's for sure!

How is fighting under the welterweight limit proving your a welterweight and erasing what just happened with him and Clottey???...you make no damn sense dude! Second if you think Manny beats Cotto worse than Hatton then you must be smoking some real good **** from the Phillipines and you need to pass that douche to the left hand side.

[RRICAN]

Again, someone making Roach out to be some evil bastard.

lol you know he is

[Iceta]

iceta , what was soto's biggest win at 130? and when?

barrera and pacquiao was being planned but golden boy didn't want barrera to lose the wbc title to pacquiao.

gbp wanted marquez to have the belt.

that's why barrera fought marquez before pacquiao.

also why barrera left gbp afterwards i think.

he could have made more money fighting pac as a champ.

that said. just consider the barrera fight as a tuneup.

pacquiao was the #1 guy at 130. marquez was the #2 guy at 130.

they fought.

what's the problem?

because he didn't fight soto who was ranked below barrera , morales , marquez when he fought them?

soto didn't become one of the top guys at 130 'til AFTER barrera , morales , pacquiao AND marquez all left 130. you know this right?

hell soto was ranked below guzman and even juarez.

I know Soto didn't have as much clout as all of these guys where resume is concerned, but it just looked like a sissy move to have a fight set up with him on two separate occasions and then turn around and fight a couple of guys who were more on the down slide. And how was Juarez ranked over Soto? I watched the fight between the two and Soto won it handily despite the point deductions. I'll admit he got outslicked by Guzman, but he was still in that fight and landed the harder punches. He gives you more **** for your buck than Guzman does. I blame a lot of this on Arum though. He treats Soto about as bad as he does Donaire and Clottey.

[Primal Instinx]

the fight is already done pretty much.

arum is just bsing around hoping floyd will meet him on his terms.

if floyd doesn't , pac-cotto will become official.

no point in everyone arguing really.

if they decide on 143 , 144 , 145 or whatever......cotto has 5 months to prepare himself to fight at that weight.

I hear you bud but walk around weights and fight weights are completely different. Most fighters don't come in at their walk around weight no matter how much you train. You want to be above your fight weight until the last couple of weeks if not the same week of the fight because you will be virtually stronger than if you stay at the same wieght all year round. There are a few gym **** like Hopkins, Roy Jones Jr., Floyd who pretty much stay at fight weight all year round but those are the natural phenoms that do that.

[WhoreUs]

Again, someone making Roach out to be some evil bastard.

trainers always try to look out for their fighters.

your fighter is a slick mover = ask for the biggest ring possible

your fighter is an inside fighter = ask for the smallest ring possible

your fighter is the defensive type = ask for grant gloves

your fighter is the harder puncher = ask for cleto-reyes gloves

your fighter is bigger = ask for a fight at a higher weight

your fighter is smaller = ask for a fight at a lower weight

and so on..........

it's been that way since the beginning of boxing.