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  • Originally posted by Mr._Pink View Post
    With Arum controlling the money it's hard to fathom that he really wants Pacquiao tying up with Cotto or Mosley, at least before he fights Mayweather, for one obvious reason. That being there's too much guaranteed money to chance. Physically, Pacquiao is in much deeper water fighting Cotto or Mosley than he is Mayweather. That’s something that the avid Pacquiao faction might dispute, but then they'd probably see him as the favorite over anyone up to junior middleweight with the exception of Paul Williams.

    That said, Cotto and Mosley have a much better chance of beating up and embarrassing Pacquiao than Mayweather does. In a fight with Cotto and especially Mosley, it's not a given that Manny's power would overwhelm them. And if he can't hold them off there's a real chance they could work him over pretty good, assuming they're not dead at the weight. However, if Pacquiao fights Mayweather it's doubtful he'll get stopped or take a beating. The more likely scenario is Mayweather will move away and look to box and counter Pacquiao as he presses forward. And there's no doubt about the fact that if the fight happens, Manny will have to go to Floyd because that's how he fights every opponent.
    I just love this part but I think in part his wrong the *******s think he can beat Paul Williams

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    • Originally posted by mellow_mood View Post
      i think floyd is going to screw the jmm fight.. .and call out pac... just to get him in the ring with him.. b4 the cotto fight gets signed


      Do you ever see Mayweather calling out anyone recently??? Mayweather will tell you how he is the cashcow and how he doesnt need to chase anybody..That people have to chase him etc

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      • Originally posted by Mr._Pink View Post
        can't blame arum. it's his job.

        cotto and pacquiao makes him the most money.

        in his position we'd do the same.



        do you think nate can beat bradley? still undecided who to root for.

        i like bradley more but i might root for nate because i feel bad at how guzman screwed his career over.
        Its a good fight but I think Nate Dawg is a bit too crafty for Bradley, but Bradley's proven me wrong before.

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        • Originally posted by Animalistic View Post
          Roach is afraid dude. He knows Cotto at 145-147 is going to walk all over Pacquiao and make the little midget his *****.


          Roach is scared you punk!


          Pac team is getting exposed!
          if the part that he says that people who think manny is going to breeze in this fight are not so bright, it's what's i've been thinkin too to be honest, people are really mistaken judging miguels last fight against a defensive fighter. cotto shines against fighters like pacquiao, who come forward and dont clinch. miguel is going to have a field day, 143 is not fair, roach EVIDENTLY wants to cripple miguel, and that is not not cool. 144 is a happy medium.

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          • Originally posted by Mr._Pink View Post
            do you think that's why arum is in no hurry to get the fight done?

            technically , arum could get the pac-cotto fight signed in 1 day if he really wanted.


            well not really.. .is not that easy... both camps have to first accept they main factors of the contract

            the purse split & the weight for the fight....

            among some other details regarding the future of both fighters.. especially to cotto since this will be his "last" fight of his contract with top rank......

            so.. regarding your question... arum is definitly using the situation to see if he can land a fight with mayweather... but then.. he's gonna have to realize.. that theres a big possibility of cotto leaving TR...

            is a hard call for bob arum.... so.. the long does it takes... the more clear the situation will be.. im sure.... both camps knows already what their demands are going to be.....

            know arum is just figuring out.. how he can play this one out of course with him.. winnin the bigger share of the money....

            is not that easy.. but yeah... arum is just taking his time to figure out this.... or just waiting a lil bit to see how floyd reacts in the next few weeks

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            • Originally posted by GetSumBrah View Post
              u gotta be kidding me brah. Why dont we tell brad pitt to do a show on UPN.
              Jay, maybe u can tell leonardo dicaprio to guest star in tyler perry's house of pain while your at it.

              that's the worst career move Pacquiao can ever do.

              Campbell brings absolutely nothing to the table. NOTHING. He has no belts, no fans, no money, no stature, no nothing.

              If Pacquiao beats him, its another round of ohh he beat another old fighter (nate is what 38?).
              From a commercial standpoint it wouldn't be the "biggest" glossiest fight out there. But from a hardcore fight fan standpoint, I'd give mad props to Manny for taking the fight and for beating a tough ass nails dude like Campbell.
              That fight would enhance Manny's legacy for facing the toughest comp out there, which to me is more important than the HBO hype fights.
              Agree to disagree on this one Brah.

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              • Originally posted by theAleph View Post
                Cotto should just say no to Pac at whatever weight. Let's see Pac-Mosley instead. At least then nobody would be bitching about how fragile Cotto is if he has to lose 2 lbs. I like Mosley fans; they are a lot less whinier than Cotto fans.
                Roach is smart he isnt overestimating Cotto. He knows pacquiao cant beat him if hes not weakend before the fight

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                • no disrespect to cotto he is one of my faves but pac is the best fighter in the world and at any weight pac will beat him. i wish it was at 147 but he is influenced by his peers. if its a catchweight and cotto agrees then we all should be happy with their decisions.
                  and may the best man win.

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                  • Originally posted by raycorey View Post
                    Do you ever see Mayweather calling out anyone recently??? Mayweather will tell you how he is the cashcow and how he doesnt need to chase anybody..That people have to chase him etc
                    thats cool..

                    we are already seeing ppls response...

                    and arum pac & cotto have notice that....

                    i dont think that mayweathers injury was a fake.... at all.... but

                    those things happenin to an athlete of the caliber of mayweather....


                    and just after the result of cotto vs clottey//

                    things that make you go hmmmm...

                    im just sharing my point of view... i could be wrong tho but thats ok... its part of the game!!

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                    • Originally posted by Jay Em Em View Post
                      From a commercial standpoint it wouldn't be the "biggest" glossiest fight out there. But from a hardcore fight fan standpoint, I'd give mad props to Manny for taking the fight and for beating a tough ass nails dude like Campbell.
                      That fight would enhance Manny's legacy for facing the toughest comp out there, which to me is more important than the HBO hype fights.
                      Agree to disagree on this one Brah.


                      fair enough brah. but if its for legacy wise, if im pacquiao, im fighting the desert storm instead of campbell. he has a IBHOF recognized sanct belt & he is IMO the best 140 pounder other than pac. He's also in his mid 20s. I feel bad for nate & i hope he gets some more coin before leaving the sport but he just doesnt bring nothing to the table. Hardcore fans would rather see bradley vs pac before pac vs nate.

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