I say this in the most respectfull way possible:Cotto stans (not fans) have NO heart.

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Cotto Fans are like 12 year olds, always whining and crying on every boxing forum.

Never anything normal, always complaining somewhere down the line.

[Ch@mpBox@PR]

Question aint directed at me but...

I wouldn't call Pac a blown up featherweight. I think he's a natural 135 pounder now...

And I would give him credit if he beat Cotto at 145 or 147. But if its at 145 I wouldn't consider him a champion at 147 really...

And Pac looks bad in the fact that he was willing to go to 147 to fight Oscar but against a real fighter he won't...

Co sign!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[787_PR]

I don't see how a guy who walks around at around 180's fans are afraid of a former flyweight or 106 pound fighter that had to put rocks in his pockets to make weight. .

stop making **** up. You don't know what Cotto walks around at. Also your acting like if he still puts rocks to make weight he doesnt hes fought at that weight before and if he wants the title he shouldnt make the champion have to fight at anything less that the ww limit.

[street bully]

stop making **** up. You don't know what Cotto walks around at. Also your acting like if he still puts rocks to make weight he doesnt hes fought at that weight before and if he wants the title he shouldnt make the champion have to fight at anything less that the ww limit.

****, please gtfo of my thread you scrub.

[Ch@mpBox@PR]

****, please gtfo of my thread you scrub.

Cotto foought Calderon at in the ama in the minimum weight class at teh same age manny fought at Jr FLyweight.

Cotto wlaks around 165, not 180.

Manny is a JWW while Cotto is a WW, end of story!!!!!!!!!

[-MAKAVELLI-]

I don't see how a guy who walks around at around 180's fans are afraid of a former flyweight or 106 pound fighter that had to put rocks in his pockets to make weight. .

for the DLH fight, Team Pacquiao drew a mustache and airbrushed abs on Buboy....he was the one that weighed in



true story

[JACK D. RIPPER]

****, please gtfo of my thread you scrub.

What happened to the actual ****??
Contrary to popular belief, I thought **** was funny.

[Ch@mpBox@PR]

for the DLH fight, Team Pacquiao drew a mustache and airbrushed abs on Buboy....he was the one that weighed in



true story

LMAO jajajaja Good ****!!!!!!

But that would be the case if manny fought at HW!!!!!!!!

[Shadow boxer 3]

In all my years I have never seen people who label themselves as being fans nag and complain so much over a mere two pounds. Cotto is supposed to be a warrior looking for the biggest and baddest challenges, and he has taken them in mrgarito and clottey, however everyone here knows that one year ago people would have been calling Cotto names and questioning his heart if he were to pursue a Pacquiao fight at 140 let alone 145. What you guys are forgetting is that Pacquiao is a blown up featherweight that had to eat two breakfasts on weigh in day just so that he could weigh in over 135, where most fighters starve themselves to make weight. Thus it can be seen that Pacquiao really isn't even a ljr WW, and currently is more of a lightweight. On the other hand Cotto comes into his fights as a middleweight, and now probably comes in at well over 160 since the last time he allowed himself to be unofficially weighed in he was a whopping 158lbs, and that was when he looked much smalle rin the ring at 140. Manny on the other hand has been coming in at the same weight of 147 for years now, which shows you that Manny is the same size in the ring now he has been since he was at 126lbs.

What you have to realize is that fights at catchweights have been happining as long as boxing has been around. Recently you may have noticed that bernard Hopkins who was the undisputed MW champion of the worl, who held all the titles at MW including the Sugar ray Robinson trophy was forced to come down to 156lbs just two pounds over jr MW against De La Hoya, and guess what the fighter that was supposed to be drained showed no damage at all and won showing that he was the better man regarless of having to sweat off the weight. Hopkins also came in at 156 against trinidad in a fight he was supposed to be decapitated in, and he once again showed that weight didn't matter after he beat down Trinidad. Recently Roy Jones junior also came down all the way to 168.5 lbs, his lowest weight in years, in a fight many considered to be a 50-50 affair, and did he lose? No he showed he was the better figher. Another example would be Hopkins vs Pavlik. Kelly Pavlik who fought at 166 just one fight prior forced the fight to be at a 170 lb catchweight in hopes of sapping a 43 year old man of energy. Did it help? No it didn't the better fighter won yet again.

All these points go to show you that even when a catchweight is administered in hopes of making a fight that would normally be a mismatch more even it does not make the outcome a forgone conclusion, and 9 times out of ten the better fighter comes out at top. Saying this I have one last question to the Cotto stans, not the mild fans but the stans. Are you really afraid of two pounds, or do you guys think Cotto isn't good enough to beat a blown up featherweight that he will outweigh in the ring by almost 15 plus lbs come fight nigh? If you guys do not have confidence in your man to beat a blown up featherweight, where JMM was the much smaller man and fight on even (or even better) terms with a Pacquiao who was the bigger man, then I do not know what to say. So what is it, are you guys not confident in Cotto (do you think he isn't good), or do you think the 15 plus lbs of weight advantage he will have are not enough, and he needs even more to beat a man who will be coming in at fight night weighing the same unofficially he did against Morales four years ago. you make up your minds. I repeat this is a message to Cotto's stans and not his sensible fans. Thank you.

according to Roach, pac stuggled to make 135 against Diaz. he had to sweat off 2 pounds just before the weigh-in and hasnt been bac to 135 since. his body has filled out with age as with all boxers. so he's not just a blown up featherweight. u wont see pac below 140 anymore

[street bully]

Cotto foought Calderon at in the ama in the minimum weight class at teh same age manny fought at Jr FLyweight.

Cotto wlaks around 165, not 180.

Manny is a JWW while Cotto is a WW, end of story!!!!!!!!!

Cotto comes in fight night at around 165. He also gains weight between fights, and startsl ooking a little chubby/thick. I would also like to see proof of Cotto fighting at minimum weight in the ams. From what I heard Jim Lamply say during the Mosley fight he weighs less now then he did when he fought in the ams, (Cotto was a fat kid).