I say this in the most respectfull way possible:Cotto stans (not fans) have NO heart.

[street bully]

The DLH fight fooled a lotta cats into thinkin Pac is really a WW, which he ain't. It also showed how disastrous it can be for a bigger guy to drop down in weight. I think at 147 Cotto got this easily. If he agrees to a catchweight that's on him. No way to know whether he'll be strong or not til the fight happens. But the thought of him comin in weakened and gettin massacred by Pac bothers some cats who support him. I been sayin all along they should worry about guys in their own divisions, but looks like the fight is goin down, so we'll just have to wait n see.

Pacquiao isn't even a big jr WW. Cotto want this fight more. Pacquiao can easily fight Marqez in a fight that would be just as big, or even Mosley or Mayweather in fights that would be bigger.

[theAleph]

Pacquiao isn't even a big jr WW. Cotto want this fight more. Pacquiao can easily fight Marqez in a fight that would be just as big, or even Mosley or Mayweather in fights that would be bigger.

I agree. In a perfect world, two of the most exciting active fighters would be residing in the same weight class. But it's not, and they are 7 lbs apart. Splitting the difference makes sense. Else, Cotto can fight PWill or Collazo, both full-fledged welters, and Pac can take on Bradley-Campbell winner or Mosley who has no problems about going down in weight.

[ELPacman]

Cotto in the sense won the Pacquiao lottery and now if he wants to collect his money, he's going to have to meet Manny's demands being the guy in the drivers seat. It's as simple as this. The fans want these fights to happen, Pacquiao and Roach know his fighters limit in weight. Pacquiao IS NOT A REAL 147lber, I repeat, he is NOT a 147LBER. He weighed in at what? 142lbs for his fight with Oscar and then went up only to 148lbs for their 147lbs fight! What does that tell you? If Manny weighed in at 147lbs, and then fight night, anything over 150lbs, your gonna see a bloated, sluggish Manny. It's not his weight class but so many people want the fights to happen since those are the better fighters than 140lbs. Can't win if you want it all.

[S A M U R A I]

In all my years I have never seen people who label themselves as being fans nag and complain so much over a mere two pounds. Cotto is supposed to be a warrior looking for the biggest and baddest challenges, and he has taken them in mrgarito and clottey, however everyone here knows that one year ago people would have been calling Cotto names and questioning his heart if he were to pursue a Pacquiao fight at 140 let alone 145. What you guys are forgetting is that Pacquiao is a blown up featherweight that had to eat two breakfasts on weigh in day just so that he could weigh in over 135, where most fighters starve themselves to make weight. Thus it can be seen that Pacquiao really isn't even a ljr WW, and currently is more of a lightweight. On the other hand Cotto comes into his fights as a middleweight, and now probably comes in at well over 160 since the last time he allowed himself to be unofficially weighed in he was a whopping 158lbs, and that was when he looked much smalle rin the ring at 140. Manny on the other hand has been coming in at the same weight of 147 for years now, which shows you that Manny is the same size in the ring now he has been since he was at 126lbs.

What you have to realize is that fights at catchweights have been happining as long as boxing has been around. Recently you may have noticed that bernard Hopkins who was the undisputed MW champion of the worl, who held all the titles at MW including the Sugar ray Robinson trophy was forced to come down to 156lbs just two pounds over jr MW against De La Hoya, and guess what the fighter that was supposed to be drained showed no damage at all and won showing that he was the better man regarless of having to sweat off the weight. Hopkins also came in at 156 against trinidad in a fight he was supposed to be decapitated in, and he once again showed that weight didn't matter after he beat down Trinidad. Recently Roy Jones junior also came down all the way to 168.5 lbs, his lowest weight in years, in a fight many considered to be a 50-50 affair, and did he lose? No he showed he was the better figher. Another example would be Hopkins vs Pavlik. Kelly Pavlik who fought at 166 just one fight prior forced the fight to be at a 170 lb catchweight in hopes of sapping a 43 year old man of energy. Did it help? No it didn't the better fighter won yet again.

All these points go to show you that even when a catchweight is administered in hopes of making a fight that would normally be a mismatch more even it does not make the outcome a forgone conclusion, and 9 times out of ten the better fighter comes out at top. Saying this I have one last question to the Cotto stans, not the mild fans but the stans. Are you really afraid of two pounds, or do you guys think Cotto isn't good enough to beat a blown up featherweight that he will outweigh in the ring by almost 15 plus lbs come fight nigh? If you guys do not have confidence in your man to beat a blown up featherweight, where JMM was the much smaller man and fight on even (or even better) terms with a Pacquiao who was the bigger man, then I do not know what to say. So what is it, are you guys not confident in Cotto (do you think he isn't good), or do you think the 15 plus lbs of weight advantage he will have are not enough, and he needs even more to beat a man who will be coming in at fight night weighing the same unofficially he did against Morales four years ago. you make up your minds. I repeat this is a message to Cotto's stans and not his sensible fans. Thank you.

Excellent post.

Cotto fans are afraid, not of a catchweight, they are afraid because Pacquiao has a very realistic chance of beating Cotto no matter what the weight is. They'll use the weight as a ready-made excuse if he loses.

It's that simple.



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[wizard king]

Pacquiao isn't even a big jr WW. Cotto want this fight more. Pacquiao can easily fight Marqez in a fight that would be just as big, or even Mosley or Mayweather in fights that would be bigger.

wrong wrong again pac is the one who wants this fight he is the one who put this fight in motion. of course cotto is going to say this is the biggest fight of his career and why wouldt cotto not fight pac,pac is the one feeding him self to the wovles. pac is the one who challenged him with bs terms. this fight would have never came about if pac team and pac didt opening their ****ing mouth.for freaking sake pac was scouting cotto at his fight you morons need to stfu with cotto is the chaseing pac or wants this fight more then pac. morons ill tell you

[S A M U R A I]

wrong wrong again pac is the one who wants this fight he is the one who put this fight in motion. of course cotto is going to say this is the biggest fight of his career and why wouldt cotto not fight pac,pac is the one feeding him self to the wovles. pac is the one who challenged him with bs terms. this fight would have never came about if pac team and pac didt opening their ****ing mouth.for freaking sake pac was scouting cotto at his fight you morons need to stfu with cotto is the chaseing pac or wants this fight more then pac. morons ill tell you

Dude, both of them want the fight. Are you THAT ******ed to think only Manny wants to fight Cotto? Cotto will make millions. Of course he wants the ****ing fight.



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[theAleph]

wrong wrong again pac is the one who wants this fight he is the one who put this fight in motion. of course cotto is going to say this is the biggest fight of his career and why wouldt cotto not fight pac,pac is the one feeding him self to the wovles. pac is the one who challenged him with bs terms. this fight would have never came about if pac team and pac didt opening their ****ing mouth.for freaking sake pac was scouting cotto at his fight you morons need to stfu with cotto is the chaseing pac or wants this fight more then pac. morons ill tell you

Cotto should just move on then. Fight Collazo, rematch Clottey, wait for Marg's suspension to lift. In the meanwhile, Pac can fight Mosley who has no problem going down in weight.

[street bully]

wrong wrong again pac is the one who wants this fight he is the one who put this fight in motion. of course cotto is going to say this is the biggest fight of his career and why wouldt cotto not fight pac,pac is the one feeding him self to the wovles. pac is the one who challenged him with bs terms. this fight would have never came about if pac team and pac didt opening their ****ing mouth.for freaking sake pac was scouting cotto at his fight you morons need to stfu with cotto is the chaseing pac or wants this fight more then pac. morons ill tell you

If you had half a brain and read the news you would know that Pacquiao wasn't really interested in collecting his fighter of the year award, and would rather have spent time on vacation with his familly, let alone witness Cotto get a shady decision I personally think he didn't deserve. In other words Arum begged him, and possibly threw him a bone to come.

[fcastro1]

Geez..you're really stubborn arent you?..who else do you like besides pacman?..

Pacman gets the bigger split because he's the #1 lb4lb fighter in the world..nobody's takin that away from him..but he's not a HUGE PPV DRAW bro..keep your nuthuggery realistic..

Pacquiao is more popular now because of DLH...just like Mayweather became more popular cuz of DLH..cuz even non-boxing fans know who they are now..as opposed to pre-Dec 08 people who saw pacquiao's pic would think he's a child ******er wit that lil mustache...

Cotto would have drawn that much or probably more with Hatton and DLH..PERIOD!..

thats very biased pac is popular for his style of fighting and his humility. plus being the best in the world. pac is th draw in boxing right now.

[wizard king]

Dude, both of them want the fight. Are you THAT ******ed to think only Manny wants to fight Cotto? Cotto will make millions. Of course he wants the ****ing fight.

of course not you dumb turd and of course cotto wants the fight now pac severd cotto the plate. what your retatred ass and every other reatard fails to realize is that if pac had not open his **** hole this fight would not have come into the air. i cant belive how retarted people are on this site it boggles the mind.