I say this in the most respectfull way possible:Cotto stans (not fans) have NO heart.

[GreenMan]

But why fuck wit the divisions and put fighters at a disadvantage!?..yes 2lbs is a disadvantage!..

Seriously..Cotto doesn't need Pacquiao..sure he wants him..but doesn't need him..he still has Mosley, Berto, Margarito, Mayweather, etc. to stamp his legacy and make money..

All of Manny's options right now are catchweights...from Mosley to Mayweather to Cotto..neither will go down to 140 but Manny won't go to 147..but Manny is nothing with out them either..who are his options at 140 right now?..Bradley?..Holt?..Campbell?..or lemme guess..Valero?..

All Manny can do with out them is go back to fighting JMM..and I don't think he wants that..cuz JMM won't count on the judges in the 3rd match..I can guarantee that!..

hahahahahah quoting cotto against pacman..

This is the biggest fight of my career - Miguel Cotto

yes, definitely pacman needs cotto more than cotto needs pacman (sarcasm)...

[JACK D. RIPPER]

my point is your an idiot if you claim cotto is the same draw as pacman..

i cant even remember when was pacman's last fight that is free !!!

he fights nobody and still in PPV..

how many PPV fights did cotto have?

JMM/Packy was freee. The only reason Packy/Diaz was on ppv was cuz' Arum's a greedy ***. Nobody thought that was a ppv fight which is why it went bust.

And the reason Oscar/pac was ppv is pretty obvious.

Cotto would draw equal or bigger numbers if he fought Hatton or Oscar.

[JACK D. RIPPER]

hahahahahah quoting cotto against pacman..

This is the biggest fight of my career - Miguel Cotto

yes, definitely pacman needs cotto more than cotto needs pacman (sarcasm)...

He meant financially, not as a challenge, lol.

[GreenMan]

JMM/Packy was freee. The only reason Packy/Diaz was on ppv was cuz' Arum's a greedy ***. Nobody thought that was a ppv fight which is why it went bust.

And the reason Oscar/pac was ppv is pretty obvious.

Cotto would draw equal or bigger numbers if he fought Hatton or Oscar.

JMM vs Pacman is free??????????????

hmmmm i should get my $50 back that i pay..

am sleeping now.. dont want to argue with an idiot

[5punchcombo]

In all my years I have never seen people who label themselves as being fans nag and complain so much over a mere two pounds. Cotto is supposed to be a warrior looking for the biggest and baddest challenges, and he has taken them in mrgarito and clottey, however everyone here knows that one year ago people would have been calling Cotto names and questioning his heart if he were to pursue a Pacquiao fight at 140 let alone 145. What you guys are forgetting is that Pacquiao is a blown up featherweight that had to eat two breakfasts on weigh in day just so that he could weigh in over 135, where most fighters starve themselves to make weight. Thus it can be seen that Pacquiao really isn't even a ljr WW, and currently is more of a lightweight. On the other hand Cotto comes into his fights as a middleweight, and now probably comes in at well over 160 since the last time he allowed himself to be unofficially weighed in he was a whopping 158lbs, and that was when he looked much smalle rin the ring at 140. Manny on the other hand has been coming in at the same weight of 147 for years now, which shows you that Manny is the same size in the ring now he has been since he was at 126lbs.

What you have to realize is that fights at catchweights have been happining as long as boxing has been around. Recently you may have noticed that bernard Hopkins who was the undisputed MW champion of the worl, who held all the titles at MW including the Sugar ray Robinson trophy was forced to come down to 156lbs just two pounds over jr MW against De La Hoya, and guess what the fighter that was supposed to be drained showed no damage at all and won showing that he was the better man regarless of having to sweat off the weight. Hopkins also came in at 156 against trinidad in a fight he was supposed to be decapitated in, and he once again showed that weight didn't matter after he beat down Trinidad. Recently Roy Jones junior also came down all the way to 168.5 lbs, his lowest weight in years, in a fight many considered to be a 50-50 affair, and did he lose? No he showed he was the better figher. Another example would be Hopkins vs Pavlik. Kelly Pavlik who fought at 166 just one fight prior forced the fight to be at a 170 lb catchweight in hopes of sapping a 43 year old man of energy. Did it help? No it didn't the better fighter won yet again.

All these points go to show you that even when a catchweight is administered in hopes of making a fight that would normally be a mismatch more even it does not make the outcome a forgone conclusion, and 9 times out of ten the better fighter comes out at top. Saying this I have one last question to the Cotto stans, not the mild fans but the stans. Are you really afraid of two pounds, or do you guys think Cotto isn't good enough to beat a blown up featherweight that he will outweigh in the ring by almost 15 plus lbs come fight nigh? If you guys do not have confidence in your man to beat a blown up featherweight, where JMM was the much smaller man and fight on even (or even better) terms with a Pacquiao who was the bigger man, then I do not know what to say. So what is it, are you guys not confident in Cotto (do you think he isn't good), or do you think the 15 plus lbs of weight advantage he will have are not enough, and he needs even more to beat a man who will be coming in at fight night weighing the same unofficially he did against Morales four years ago. you make up your minds. I repeat this is a message to Cotto's stans and not his sensible fans. Thank you.

The same goes with pacquiao having Cotto shed 2 lbs who the **** cares take as hes beenfighting for the past year!

[GreenMan]

He meant financially, not as a challenge, lol.

exactly so who is the bigger draw.. btw .. no way in hell this is 50/50 split

70/30 pacman..

so stfu with your cotto being the bigger draw..

[JACK D. RIPPER]

JMM vs Pacman is free??????????????

hmmmm i should get my $50 back that i pay..

am sleeping now.. dont want to argue with an idiot

LOL, oops, I forgot. Doesn't matter, that was cuz JMM was in it. Look how Packy did against Diaz.

[..WaRSpencE..]

exactly so who is the bigger draw.. btw .. no way in hell this is 50/50 split

70/30 pacman..

so stfu with your cotto being the bigger draw..

Geez..you're really stubborn arent you?..who else do you like besides pacman?..

Pacman gets the bigger split because he's the #1 lb4lb fighter in the world..nobody's takin that away from him..but he's not a HUGE PPV DRAW bro..keep your nuthuggery realistic..

Pacquiao is more popular now because of DLH...just like Mayweather became more popular cuz of DLH..cuz even non-boxing fans know who they are now..as opposed to pre-Dec 08 people who saw pacquiao's pic would think he's a child ******er wit that lil mustache...

Cotto would have drawn that much or probably more with Hatton and DLH..PERIOD!..

[JACK D. RIPPER]

exactly so who is the bigger draw.. btw .. no way in hell this is 50/50 split

70/30 pacman..

so stfu with your cotto being the bigger draw..

Its 52/48 Packy cuz he's got momentum. 70/30 is asinine.
Cotto is just as big a draw as Packy.

[GreenMan]

Its 52/48 Packy cuz he's got momentum. 70/30 is asinine.
Cotto is just as big a draw as Packy.

i got 10k on manny beating cotto..

what say u?