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Originally posted by mangler View PostPac ain't big enuf for 147. Fight shouldn't happen at all.
You could have said Robinson was too small for light heavyweight seeing as he weighed in for the Maxim fight at only 157.5, but he was well ahead on all cards and would have become a light heavy champ if the temperature hadn't been 105 degrees and caused him to collapse from heat exhaustion.
Anyways, I agree with Pully. Once your signature is on the contract, you're saying "I am fit to fight at ______ weight". No excuses. If you're not able to fight effectively after dropping 2 or 3 pounds, that's your problem. Your opponent should not be criticized for it.
I usually would agree that WW's need to fight WW's, and I understand that there are weight divisions for a reason. However, talent often transcends weight, as it did for Robinson.
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Originally posted by mangler View PostPac ain't big enuf for 147. Fight shouldn't happen at all.
Originally posted by S a m u r a i View PostFor once I'm gonna disagree with you, mang.
You could have said Robinson was too small for light heavyweight seeing as he weighed in for the Maxim fight at only 157.5, but he was well ahead on all cards and would have become a light heavy champ if the temperature hadn't been 105 degrees and caused him to collapse from heat exhaustion.
Anyways, I agree with Pully. Once your signature is on the contract, you're saying "I am fit to fight at ______ weight". No excuses. If you're not able to fight effectively after dropping 2 or 3 pounds, that's your problem. Your opponent should not be criticized for it.
I usually would agree that WW's need to fight WW's, and I understand that there are weight divisions for a reason. However, talent often transcends weight, as it did for Robinson.
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Originally posted by S a m u r a i View PostFor once I'm gonna disagree with you, mang.
You could have said Robinson was too small for light heavyweight seeing as he weighed in for the Maxim fight at only 157.5, but he was well ahead on all cards and would have become a light heavy champ if the temperature hadn't been 105 degrees and caused him to collapse from heat exhaustion.
Anyways, I agree with Pully. Once your signature is on the contract, you're saying "I am fit to fight at ______ weight". No excuses. If you're not able to fight effectively after dropping 2 or 3 pounds, that's your problem. Your opponent should not be criticized for it.
I usually would agree that WW's need to fight WW's, and I understand that there are weight divisions for a reason. However, talent often transcends weight, as it did for Robinson.
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So if Cotto decides that he is willing to drain himself further because the millions of dollars he will make and the chance at fighting Pac is worth it... then Pac still beat the best Cotto?
Cotto signing the contract... just means the DEAL was good enough to make it worth it to him..
It doesnt mean he wont have to sacrifice being at his best.
He may not have an excuse... but either way you slice it... Pac STILL didnt beat the best Cotto IMO..
I guess JMM has NO excuse for losing because he signed to fight Floyd at 144lbs..
OF COURSE he does... we all just know the deal was too good for JMM to pass it up... but Floyd still wont be beating the best JMM, whether JMM signed the contract or not.
If you sign the contract, then you are responsible... and should have no excuses...
But with all that... does that mean Pac DIDNT beat a drained Cotto?
Even though he signed?Last edited by THE REED; 06-19-2009, 12:12 PM.
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Originally posted by reedickyaluss View PostSo if Cotto decides that he is willing to drain himself further because the millions of dollars he will make and the chance at fighting Pac is worth it... then Pac still beat the best Cotto?
Cotto signing the contract... just means the DEAL was good enough to make it worth it to him..
It doesnt mean he wont have to sacrifice being at his best.
He may not have an excuse... but either way you slice it... Pac STILL didnt beat the best Cotto IMO..
I guess JMM has NO excuse for losing because he signed to fight Floyd at 144lbs..
OF COURSE he does... we all just know the deal was too good for JMM to pass it up... but Floyd still wont be beating the best JMM, whether JMM signed the contract or not.
If you sign the contract, then you are responsible... and should have no excuses...
But with all that... does that mean Pac DIDNT beat a drained Cotto?
Even though he signed?
Great freaking post.
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And a guy like Cotto who rehydrates THIRTEEN POUNDS in 24 hours... is OBVIOUSLY draining himself to get just to 147lbs...
And saying that Cotto JUST made 146lbs, is a MOOT point.
It's not like Cotto will STAY 146lbs after the fight... NO... he will have to drain ALL over again... only now that extra 2 pounds MUST be taken off...
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