He never made his opponents come down in weight to fight him. He started at 119 and never once he made a ***** move for his opponents to come down. He fight all of them at their natural weight.
Roberto Duran Never Ask His Opponents To Fight Him at a CatchWeight
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yeah.... so......
nobody is making anybody fight at any weight..... they respond to $$$, its their call, they are the proprietor of their own destiny....
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LMAO!!!
The first and last time Pacquiao fought at a catchweight was against Oscar. Pacman was a natural featherweight, fought once at 135 and you don't give him credit for going up 12 more pounds?
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Do you know how much boxers strugle to make weight? When you do talk to me because you have no idea how hard it is.Comment
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I made the thread to prove a point that going up in weight is not that hard and it's been done before. Pacquiao gets compared with Duran here all the time because of the all the division they have box in.
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That's because he was such a fat, lazy bastard he was happy not to train and just come in fat and bloated.
Just kidding.
Look, all the catchweight stuff really started out when Leonard famously 'won' the light-heavyweight title off Donny LaLonde without ever actually fighting at LHW. At the time he could command such money and basically put whatever limitations he wanted on to a fight. If he wanted it to be twelve, it was, if he wanted a ninety-three foot ring, it was done and if he told the LHW 'champ' to come way down under that limit while still putting his belt on the line so he could famously win the LHW title without ever fighting at LHW, it was done and no one was to say any different. That was the commanding power of Leonard's fame.
Since then, it has slowly become more and more so. Each great champion that comes along is able to demand more and more ridiculous and absurd things. Fighting whoever he wants for whichever title he wants at whatever weight he wants, whether it actually matches the correct limitations or not.
No doubt the Cotto/Pac fight will be another example of the power of the new P4P prize-picking peso maker Pacquiao, as he will fight for Cotto's WW title at a limit that should actually be called 'Pac's super-junior-welterweight'.
Seriously, the future of boxing is in catch-weight fights and division jumping to fight the easiest 'name' champions to pick up the most titles in the most divisions, whilst avoiding every possible risk that in the heyday of boxing would have just been one of the normal steps to get to a simple number one ranking, let alone become the champion of the division.
In a case like Pac's, it is kind of cool simply because he is fighting the best, well, in most cases, but I think the nitpicking over weight just to get the slightest advantage negates the whole point of the term 'weight division'. If he has fought comfortably at both weights (147 and 140) and wishes to take the WW title from Cotto, then it must be argued that it should be at the weight division in which that title is held, otherwise that title is quite literally meaningless and is not a welterweight title but simply a catch-weight title.
In all fairness, I'm only using Pac as the example here because there is so much talk from him calling out the WW's but then refusing to fight them at 147. He is still trying so far to make some good fights, but he is just pushing the pulling power thing too far and showing where the future of boxing is headed and what its star pugilists will be able to demand while reaping the great $ and legacy benefits that should not necessarily be attached.
If it was a simple non-title fight then none of it matters because back when the actual weight divisions were proper divisions between the fighters, if they came in over the weight it was a non title affair, or if it was a non title affair anyway, then they could come in at whatever weight they came in at and agreed to fight at, but when it came to title fights and winning a title at a certain weight limit, there was no negotiating by the superior 'name' party, up until Leonard that is.
If it was a 147 title fight then it was at 147 and not 143 to get that extra little advantage because the supposed 'smaller' fighter had the greater pulling power and P4P title, therefore being able to do whatever agreed upon while gaining a title that was never actually fought at the specified title weight. Sadly, it is where boxing is headed.
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