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  • Thread Stealer
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    #51
    Aaron Pryor is one example.

    It was actually probably a good thing that he turned down (or was low-balled depending on your viewpoint) Leonard's offer as I don't like Pryor's chances at welterweight (or against Duran @ 150), but 140 and below, things could've been better.

    He probably would've beaten Mamby in a unification bout, but managerial and personal problems screwed that one up. The lightweight thing is a little weird as he was the top ranked 135 lb. contender (by The Ring) while the 140 lb. champ, despite not having fought at 135 in awhile. Assuming he could make 135 comfortable, he should've been able to do some serious damage there as well.

    And then his drug problems kicked in and obviously that hurt his career.
    Last edited by Thread Stealer; 06-17-2009, 09:16 AM.

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    • LEFTYGUNZZ
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      #52
      Originally posted by shynequasiog22
      Zab Judah, one of the most physically gifted fighters who just doesn't have the mental toughness.
      Zab Judah - Mental toughness lack of training
      Mike Tyson - Mental issues and lack of training
      Fernando Vargas - fought in wars too early in his carrer car accident descipline
      James Toney - Too god damn heavy shoul dhave never fought above LHW
      James Quick Tillis - had alot of gifts just never put it all together.....Lefty

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      • -PedoBear-
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        #53
        Zab Judah... all the way, amazing skillset... just couldnt get disciplined enough to train hard enough....

        he was good, but he could have been great!

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        • boxing_great
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          #54
          Originally posted by portuge puncher
          he was a champ at 17, but he said he never trained,
          he was best defence fighter of the era,

          imagine if he had trained
          rid**** bowe

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            #55
            Originally posted by veteran420
            Zab Judah... all the way, amazing skillset... just couldnt get disciplined enough to train hard enough....

            he was good, but he could have been great!
            I think Judah trained hard for his big fights. The Baldomir fight was a perceived tune-up so he may have slacked off during that training camp (there were stories about him taking camp lightly), but in other fights like Tszyu, Mayweather, Cotto, I think he was in top shape.

            He just had mental lapses and the ability to re-adjust in the ring when his opponent adjusted to him. He also has that tendency to go into a shell when getting hit and just looking for one bomb to bail him out.

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            • The_Demon
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              #56
              Originally posted by fightfan_79
              I don't know why he thought he had to retire after Barrera....he lost to a "complete" fighter...at that time was P4P top 10...no shame. Get up, dust yourself off...get back in the ring....what's he up to nowadays?
              he still talks about a return lol but after his stay in prison i doubt hes up for it,so fat-still has a mouth on him though

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              • Tmann400
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                #57
                ike ibeabuchi by far in my opinion..first to beat and knock out chris bird and first to beat david tua..then he went to prison..it makes me sick

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                • nujabes77
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                  #58
                  zab judah

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                  • Jean28
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                    #59
                    Zab Judah definitely.

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                    • klipsch speaker
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                      #60
                      Floyd Mayweather jr

                      If only he had fought the best junior welterweights and welterweights out there.
                      He could have been greater than he is now.

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